[nmpike]

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Spoken like a person who has never used a VMware product. Anyone who has used their software knows that they are second to NONE for virtualization. Virtual PC, Virtual Server, XEN, and any other virtualization software has never held their own against VMwares software. Trust me, this is a very good thing for the mac Virtualization market. Parallels came to market with a limited feature set and lots of bugs a issues. They were not ready for primetime, they were just trying to ensure they were first and had the mindshare. If this product is the best they can do, VMware likely has little to worry about. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Let me chime in here... we bought the VERY FIRST copy of VMWare when it was first released when it was just on Linux... when I say the first copy, we were the FIRST paying customer VMWare had....
I've used them all... including parallels... your comments about parallels are inaccurate.
When parallels started, it was a beta... BETA. That means not released. Almost weekly Parallels releases something new with more features.. VMWare does not.. in fact, VMWare releases updates with very little functionality improvement. Every new version of Parallels has something better and better.
Parallels is three times the product of VMWare.. coehrcy (sp?) mode truly breaks the OS X / windows barrier.... there are also a lot of other features Parallels has that VMWare doesn't which I am not going to go into because I don't really want to see VMWare rip their ideas off.
I guarantee if you get Parallels you will love the software, and will love the support and the constant updates.
VMWare was good under Linux / windows, I will give them that, but Parallels perfected it.
Considering Parallels is under one year old for the Mac, I'd say they have done one hell of a job to be where they are today...
GO PARALLELS!
mike

[vrochette]

I just tested VMWare Fusion and successfully installed Vista RC2 x64 on my Intel Mac Pro. No issues. Works GREAT! Don't anticipate super graphics performance, still you get some pretty decent disk and memory access times. That's cool for virtualizing Application servers and Databases.
A few weeks ago I tried doing the same on Parallels, and couldn't even get to the setup screen. At the time I tried it didn't support 64 bits OS.
Sorry but for now VMWare wins.

[mike3k]

Although I love Parallels for Windows, VMWare is far ahead of Parallels in supporting operating systems other than Windows. Parallels still lacks tools for Linux but VMWare has Linux tools which synchronize the clock and let you move the mouse freely in and out of the window, both of which are broken with Parallels.

[NoahJ]

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Let me chime in here... we bought the VERY FIRST copy of VMWare when it was first released when it was just on Linux... when I say the first copy, we were the FIRST paying customer VMWare had....

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Ok, so your hard to prove point is that use VMware and have for a while. Ok...

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I've used them all... including parallels... your comments about parallels are inaccurate.
When parallels started, it was a beta... BETA. That means not released. Almost weekly Parallels releases something new with more features.. VMWare does not.. in fact, VMWare releases updates with very little functionality improvement. Every new version of Parallels has something better and better.

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Well, since every product is a Beta before it is realeased I will not argue that point. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif And once Parallels was released it was truly not feature complete. Thus the reason why every update keeps bringing such huge feature updates. They rushed it out to get a lock on the market and now they are adding in the other stuff that was not ready to go when they released. No shame, a great marketing tactic.
As far as the VMware releases not bringing new functionality, you are most certainly wrong. They do not bring many interface changes, but the functionality is updated quite often. True 64bit support, improved performance that can be noticed, improved snapshot support, stability enhancements, graphics performance and more are typical fare for updates.

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Parallels is three times the product of VMWare.. coehrcy (sp?) mode truly breaks the OS X / windows barrier.... there are also a lot of other features Parallels has that VMWare doesn't which I am not going to go into because I don't really want to see VMWare rip their ideas off.

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To say that a released product is three times the quality of an unreleased product is amusing to say the least.
That said, coherancy mode is cool, was first found in Virtual PC, and is not going to be in the first release of VMware's product (at least that is what the engineer told me at VMworld 2006). The Writers wanted to make the virtualization engine fast and solid before working on the wow factor stuff. Other features that should work out of the box on VMware: 64bit support, virtual SMP support (give your Vm more than one processor), Clipboard Sync, Drag and drop of files between VM and Host windows, Snapshots, "Access physical devices from the virtual machine: read and burn CDs and DVDs, and use USB 2.0 devices like video cameras, iPods, printers, and disks at full speed. Even devices that do not have drivers for OS X will work in a virtual machine." and possibly more.

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I guarantee if you get Parallels you will love the software, and will love the support and the constant updates.
VMWare was good under Linux / windows, I will give them that, but Parallels perfected it.
Considering Parallels is under one year old for the Mac, I'd say they have done one hell of a job to be where they are today...
GO PARALLELS!
mike

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Parallels is a great company, but I guarantee they will be facing some very stiff competition from VMware. It should be interesting to see where this leads. Likely the only thing that Parallels will have that VMware does not once Fusion is relesed is Coherancy Mode. I for one will be highly interested in the results of the first performance and stability tests between the two companies products. Cheers! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[sqlrob]

I currently have a PPC Mac and there is one killer feature (VMware or Parallels) that would make me go right out and buy an Intel Mac and the appropriate software.
* Ability to Run OS X in an image, and take snapshots of the various states.

[NoahJ]

That will likely not happen anytime soon. For that to happen they would have to emulate the TPM from the mac and once they could do that the lock to apple hardware would be gone. However, perhaps they could use a passthrough to the TPM wih no emulation for that portion. It will not be anytime soon I am betting, but it is not impossible, just highly unlikely...