Apple unveils iPhone
#71
Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:44 PM
Not true.
In Europe GSM phones are locked to a particular mobile phone company. If you insert company C simcard on a phone bought from company D, it won't work. You have either to pay extra to have it unblocked or wait until a certain contractual time has passed in order to have it done for free.
Of course... you just need to go to the local market where they have a computer connected to the companies' servers and get it done for 10. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
In Europe GSM phones are locked to a particular mobile phone company. If you insert company C simcard on a phone bought from company D, it won't work. You have either to pay extra to have it unblocked or wait until a certain contractual time has passed in order to have it done for free.
Of course... you just need to go to the local market where they have a computer connected to the companies' servers and get it done for 10. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
#72
Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:50 PM
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All the corporate, education and domestic markets will love it.
All the corporate, education and domestic markets will love it.
Corporate markets will only love it if it can integrate with their servers, which are usually Microsoft Exchange. These people will want to be able to access emails, contacts, calendars, notes and tasks using this phone. Many corporate networks also use 802.1x authentication on their wireless networks. Does the iPhone's Wi-fi interface support 802.1x?
#73
Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:02 PM
I have a couple phones, one Verizon, and one Cingular. The Verizon KRZR can't sync to my Mac unless you hack it. The Cingular SLVR syncs with no problem. Verizon doesn't necessarily have better coverage, or service, in my experience, all the phone companies are pretty bad, and take as much money as possible when they have you on the line. Today, however, is just about the luckiest day I've had in a LONG time... my family plan with Verizon (4 phones with a $175 / phone penalty for leaving early = $700) ends in June. I know Daddy is getting the iPhone... throw in a few cheapies for the other three... and I'm set. I'm in line already. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
#75
Posted 09 January 2007 - 08:19 PM
Forget about 4GB and 8GB versions. Allow the phones to use SD cards or user-upgradable Flash drives to expand storage. Otherwise, stick an 80GB hard drive in there.
Questions:
1. Is the screen glass or plastic (scratch easily)?
2. Can the static film screen protectors for other handheld devices be used without affecting gestures?
3. Will the iPhone accept input while wearing gloves?
4. Is it possible to print to a WIFI printer?
5. How are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint email attachments viewed?
Questions:
1. Is the screen glass or plastic (scratch easily)?
2. Can the static film screen protectors for other handheld devices be used without affecting gestures?
3. Will the iPhone accept input while wearing gloves?
4. Is it possible to print to a WIFI printer?
5. How are Word, Excel, and PowerPoint email attachments viewed?
#76
Posted 09 January 2007 - 08:43 PM
Someone needs to let CNN in on the joke....
http://us.cnn.com/
"Apple unveils iPhone ... with rotary dial"
I don't think so!
http://us.cnn.com/
"Apple unveils iPhone ... with rotary dial"
I don't think so!
#78
Posted 09 January 2007 - 10:12 PM
I was going through the www.apple.com/iphone sections again (for maybe the 3rd time) to show it to my wife, and noticed a bit I'd missed before on the wireless page... "which links to Apples new, remarkably compact Bluetooth headset."
I hopped back over here, and noticed that (at least in the latest update of the main article) there's a mention at the end of a bluetooth headset accessory. (That "pairs automatically" with the iPhone? What does "automatically" mean? That any iPhone and headset that see each other pair without a pin code? That'd be stupid. But, if not, how is this any easier than pairing my Treo with my Mac, which is pretty easy and straightforward.)
I don't see anything about this on the apple site. Anyone know anything about it?
I hopped back over here, and noticed that (at least in the latest update of the main article) there's a mention at the end of a bluetooth headset accessory. (That "pairs automatically" with the iPhone? What does "automatically" mean? That any iPhone and headset that see each other pair without a pin code? That'd be stupid. But, if not, how is this any easier than pairing my Treo with my Mac, which is pretty easy and straightforward.)
I don't see anything about this on the apple site. Anyone know anything about it?
#79
Posted 09 January 2007 - 10:21 PM
You know what's worse.
Phone launches in Asia in 2008. The phone may perhaps be considered obsolete by the time it hits the markets here in Asia.
We're talking about Asians and their mobiles. Typical users here in Asia change their phones once every 6 months on average. Singaporeans, Thais, Chinese, Japaneses, Taiwanese, they all love their phones.
Now launching the phone in Asia that late is a poorer decision than to tie it with Cingular imho. But it does sound really bad to make you switch providers just for a phone. Steve should have left that option open.
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Phone launches in Asia in 2008. The phone may perhaps be considered obsolete by the time it hits the markets here in Asia.
We're talking about Asians and their mobiles. Typical users here in Asia change their phones once every 6 months on average. Singaporeans, Thais, Chinese, Japaneses, Taiwanese, they all love their phones.
Now launching the phone in Asia that late is a poorer decision than to tie it with Cingular imho. But it does sound really bad to make you switch providers just for a phone. Steve should have left that option open.
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#80
Posted 09 January 2007 - 10:25 PM
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Well, when you take away all the features you describe, what the hell would be the difference between an Apple phone and your Star-Tac? Pretty buttons? Amazing you would think with all the talent at Apple they should just take a hack phone and slap their logo on it.
Either you know little of Apple, or are just trying to bring down the morale.
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I don't need the color screen. I need NOT to have a camera. I can get the sync capability elsewhere. I don't even really care that it plays music. I WANTED a TELEPHONE with Apple panache, not a multimedia access-fee sucker for Cingular. This makes me sad.
I don't need the color screen. I need NOT to have a camera. I can get the sync capability elsewhere. I don't even really care that it plays music. I WANTED a TELEPHONE with Apple panache, not a multimedia access-fee sucker for Cingular. This makes me sad.
Well, when you take away all the features you describe, what the hell would be the difference between an Apple phone and your Star-Tac? Pretty buttons? Amazing you would think with all the talent at Apple they should just take a hack phone and slap their logo on it.
Either you know little of Apple, or are just trying to bring down the morale.
Hardly. I worked for Apple as a Systems Engineer for many years. Apple has vast industrial design and human interface expertise. I was hoping for a product that actually addresses the myriad problems with current phones and their services, rather than yet another over-engineered multifunction toy. What's next, Windows powered automobiles? (Wait a minute...)
#83
Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:16 AM
OMG, Apple delivers but CINGULAR SUCKS. Hello, if Apple wants to sell this new iPhone they better get real busy convincing CINGULAR to get 3G working and CUT THE $40 a month extra for crappy EDGE internet. THAT'S $960 EXTRA ON TOP OF MY $1600 FAMILY TALK PLAN FOR TWO PHONES. $2560/24 month contract for CRAPPY EDGE 2.5G. OK Steve J. get busy or you'll have a bust on your hands, otherwise it looks great! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
#84
Posted 10 January 2007 - 01:32 AM
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If you buy verizon, you're locked to verizon because you bought a CDMA phone. GSM phones have SIM cards you replace.
If you buy verizon, you're locked to verizon because you bought a CDMA phone. GSM phones have SIM cards you replace.
What's interesting is that CDMA technology actually does support removable, interchangeable cards called R-UIM cards. A R-UIM card from a CDMA phone can even be used in a GSM phone. But of course, CDMA carriers in the US such as Sprint and Verizon choose not to implement R-UIM cards because they have their own agendas which involve locking devices to their own networks, disabling Bluetooth profiles, and charging customers at every opportunity.



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