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I was TOTALLY sold on this phone and ready to call to pre-order halfway through watching the keynote.....
Then, Steve uttered the words that ended my dream of buying this phone..... Exclusive partnership with Cingular.....
I could not believe this, I am a recovering Cingular customer, that is living the good life over at T-Mobile. I had Cingular for just over a year, and it was the worst experience I have had since owning a cell phone.
I have been a Mac customer since day 1 (Mac Classic) but there is NOTHING Apple could release that would get me to ever sign another contract with Cingular ever again.
I am totally bummed out.
Apple unveils iPhone
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:18 AM
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Someone needs to let CNN in on the joke....
http://us.cnn.com/
"Apple unveils iPhone ... with rotary dial"
I don't think so!
Someone needs to let CNN in on the joke....
http://us.cnn.com/
"Apple unveils iPhone ... with rotary dial"
I don't think so!
Indeed - their website still (as of 11PM PST) still displays that, and their video of the keynote cuts right off after Steve shows the fake iPhone... My goodness, they must be really gullible. They're actually showing off the old iPod + rotary dial thingy as a real iPhone, though their article is quite accurate.
But then, CNN.com stated:
"Jobs announced that there have been 2 billion iTunes sold for iPods."
Looks like CNN thinks that each song on the iTS is called an iTune. Wow. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:31 AM
I'm pretty sure there will be other providers for the iPhone soon enough. Surely, now many customers are calling up T-Mobile and other companies, asking "When can get a iPhone from you guys?" They'd want to partner with Apple too.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:33 AM
No Stylus? NO SALE!!!! There's NO WAY I'm gonna smudge up my screen just for the sake of a new Apple gizmo. MAYBE, I'll put a screen protector and resign to finger fodder. Until then, if I get one of these, I'm using my T|X stylus.
Furthermore, the more you create a Swiss Army gadget, the LESS the features are operational. You'll get fifteen gadgets but at half their functionality potential--I'm sticking to carrying my iPod, my T|X and my Cingular ROKR--I may have three pounds of equipment but, they'll be the complete devices they were meant to be!!!
Furthermore, the more you create a Swiss Army gadget, the LESS the features are operational. You'll get fifteen gadgets but at half their functionality potential--I'm sticking to carrying my iPod, my T|X and my Cingular ROKR--I may have three pounds of equipment but, they'll be the complete devices they were meant to be!!!
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:34 AM
Hi
I was with AT&T Wireless for a year and than was "grandfathered" into Cingular Wireless for nearly two years now. I am hoping for them to improve coverage just a bit but no carrier is perfect everywhere. Plus, I live in a pretty rural area. I have no complaints of their support and I've used it at least a handful of times.
Will I be buying an iPhone? Maybe. It depends on the financial level at that point and if I really feel I could take advantage of most of the features. I'd replace my iPod with it if I did and that is the final big decision maker / breaker.
Will I be re-signing with Cingular even if I don't purchase the iPhone? Very likely. All I know is that I've seen / heard some pretty horrible things of NexTel.
The iPhone has some very great features and Steve wasn't kidding when he said most of those 'smart' features are somewhat clumsy, in my opinion, for those of us who haven't been using them since their debut. Is it for everyone? Of course not but if you can take advantage of most of the features than I'd say go for it ( $$$ status permitting ).
I was with AT&T Wireless for a year and than was "grandfathered" into Cingular Wireless for nearly two years now. I am hoping for them to improve coverage just a bit but no carrier is perfect everywhere. Plus, I live in a pretty rural area. I have no complaints of their support and I've used it at least a handful of times.
Will I be buying an iPhone? Maybe. It depends on the financial level at that point and if I really feel I could take advantage of most of the features. I'd replace my iPod with it if I did and that is the final big decision maker / breaker.
Will I be re-signing with Cingular even if I don't purchase the iPhone? Very likely. All I know is that I've seen / heard some pretty horrible things of NexTel.
The iPhone has some very great features and Steve wasn't kidding when he said most of those 'smart' features are somewhat clumsy, in my opinion, for those of us who haven't been using them since their debut. Is it for everyone? Of course not but if you can take advantage of most of the features than I'd say go for it ( $$$ status permitting ).
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:40 AM
Don't know how many of you caught the significance, but when Jobs demonstrated the ipod function of the iphone, he used The Beatles Sgt. Pepper with cover art showing, and played portions of 2 tracks in a public performance; at the end of the keynote, the iphone displayed the cover art to Abbey Road.
As users of iTunes 7 know, album art is only available from Apple if iTunes sells the album. This, and use of Beatles music in the presentation, given all
the issues the company has had with them, clearly indicates Apple has already made a deal with The Beatles to sell their catalog online...You heard it first here!
As users of iTunes 7 know, album art is only available from Apple if iTunes sells the album. This, and use of Beatles music in the presentation, given all
the issues the company has had with them, clearly indicates Apple has already made a deal with The Beatles to sell their catalog online...You heard it first here!
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:07 AM
One feature I would like to see on the iPhone is GPS integration. Whether alone, or in partnership with a company like Garmin, I think it would be a great enhancement to have the iPhone available as a real time positional navigation aid. Seems like a natural, although not without technological challeges such as maintaining the form factor, weight and battery life. However, these are the challenges that Apple Inc. was built for.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 06:38 AM
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Possibly a "One more thing..." media event in the near future?
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I'm also left wondering if we'll see the 6th gen iPod in iPhone clothes, with similar features, minus the phone capabilities and a bigger hard drive.
I'm also left wondering if we'll see the 6th gen iPod in iPhone clothes, with similar features, minus the phone capabilities and a bigger hard drive.
Possibly a "One more thing..." media event in the near future?
The present incarnation of the "Apple iPhone" (or whatever else Cisco will allow it to be named /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif) at first sight appears to reunite the functions of a video iPod, an internet-enabled PDA and a cellular phone, but after a closer scrutiny one discovers that:
1- 8GB are a rather meager amount of storage for video, more so if they must be used also to contain a stripped-down version of Mac OS X, . Not casually, only the beefiest iPods are termed "video". Unless one thinks of real-time streaming... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif This limit might be related to the fact that Apple wished to maintain its new gizmo very thin.
2- it is not clear yet what kind of applications will be able to run on it and how far (if at all) Apple will allow developers to crank out new apps for it.
3- it seems that the cellular functionality will be tied to specific providers (Cingular in U.S., different ones abroad) that will offer flat contracts with monthly fees that may be convenient for people who make heavy use of cellular communications but wouldn't be justified for a moderate use (1-2 calls /day). I'm not so sure about this issue, since the world of cellular phones is very extraneous to me: my average use is 1-2 calls /year!
Anyway, if my present concerns will be answered positively by a device with higher capacity, good programmability and no need for after-purchase periodic fees (even by sacrificing the cellular connectivity) I would be very tempted. In particular, my wife, who teaches history of music, would be very pleased by a compact device that could contain a big library of classical music at (compressed) CD quality, with an application geared to create playlists of excerpts smaller than whole tracks, with the ease of use and elegance that are proper of the Macin.... oops, i mean Apple experience.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 08:17 AM
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1- 8GB are a rather meager amount of storage for video, more so if they must be used also to contain a stripped-down version of Mac OS X, . Not casually, only the beefiest iPods are termed "video". Unless one thinks of real-time streaming... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif This limit might be related to the fact that Apple wished to maintain its new gizmo very thin.
1- 8GB are a rather meager amount of storage for video, more so if they must be used also to contain a stripped-down version of Mac OS X, . Not casually, only the beefiest iPods are termed "video". Unless one thinks of real-time streaming... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif This limit might be related to the fact that Apple wished to maintain its new gizmo very thin.
Yes, it's an iPod nano, not a "video iPod". Having just traded up from my overflowing 20Gb color iPod to an 80Gb video (which is now half full, not that much of it is essential or anything more than "because I can"), there's no way I could live with an 8Gb nano. Still, I currently carry my iPod and a Treo 700p... the capability of which to play music and video I completely ignore. I could ignore the nano-ish aspect of an iPhone the same way... if the rest was sufficiently compelling.
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2- it is not clear yet what kind of applications will be able to run on it and how far (if at all) Apple will allow developers to crank out new apps for it.
2- it is not clear yet what kind of applications will be able to run on it and how far (if at all) Apple will allow developers to crank out new apps for it.
Big and critical question. The success of the Palm is all about 3rd party developers. (I should say "was", since they're a lot less friendly now, by all reports.) As great as the built-in iPhone apps are, without 3rd party software it's a decent phone but not a PDA. (Does it even have Keychain to keep safely encrypted password databases? What about a general database to replace my Palm Jfile... what about pdf or word files?)
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3- it seems that the cellular functionality will be tied to specific providers (Cingular in U.S., different ones abroad) that will offer flat contracts with monthly fees that may be convenient for people who make heavy use of cellular communications but wouldn't be justified for a moderate use (1-2 calls /day). I'm not so sure about this issue, since the world of cellular phones is very extraneous to me: my average use is 1-2 calls /year!
3- it seems that the cellular functionality will be tied to specific providers (Cingular in U.S., different ones abroad) that will offer flat contracts with monthly fees that may be convenient for people who make heavy use of cellular communications but wouldn't be justified for a moderate use (1-2 calls /day). I'm not so sure about this issue, since the world of cellular phones is very extraneous to me: my average use is 1-2 calls /year!
Yes, you may not be the target market. As a Treo 700p user with an unlimited data plan from Verizon already, I could definitely see using this. Except of course it's stuck on Cingular/GSM when I need Verizon/CDMA. Or a fast forward to the end of my Verizon contract and MUCH improved GSM coverage in my area.
Right now, this is an intriguing curiosity. Mac OS X on a PDA. Nice. Tied to GSM and an iPod nano? Well, not so compelling right now. But I can't wait to see the "next generation" in a year or so, when perhaps I'll be ready and able to do something about it.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 08:40 AM
There is little doubt in my mind that I will own an iPhone at some point - I'm thinking 2nd or 3rd generation, though. Only 5 hours talk-time, plus the usage of other "smartphone" features, is KILLING ME with my Cingular 8125. I find myself limiting my usage and avoiding features, like video, music and camera, to save the battery.
I can see myself wanting to use the iPhone features two to three times more than my current phone.
Also, only 8GB? These will be 20 and 40GB before we know it. In my opinion an 8GB iPhone is a tease. Photos, applications, music, video, iCal, address book contacts and widgets will fill this device up in no time!
Looks outstanding though. Can't wait to play with one.
I can see myself wanting to use the iPhone features two to three times more than my current phone.
Also, only 8GB? These will be 20 and 40GB before we know it. In my opinion an 8GB iPhone is a tease. Photos, applications, music, video, iCal, address book contacts and widgets will fill this device up in no time!
Looks outstanding though. Can't wait to play with one.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 10:03 AM
Here is an interesting site about FCC complaint rates for various providers.
http://www.mobiledia...news/28511.html
http://www.mobiledia...news/28511.html
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 11:20 AM
Some observations:
There was scepticism from many quarters that the iPhone would ever debut. Another school of thought went that it would just be a glorified iPod you could make calls on, the logic being it would be unwise to tinker with a winning formula.
So of course Apple goes and breaks the mould and delivers a device with features that many of us would have scoffed at less than 24 hours ago. This is a radical departure from the iPod, which isn't as feature-packed as some of its competitors but sells so well because of its superior user-friendliness and "cool" factor.
So on the face of it this is a big gamble for Apple. Actually I think that this a very shrewd move on its part.
Firstly it more than answers the challenge from cell phone companies like Nokia and Sony Ericsson, which threaten to encroach on Apple's turf with their multi-media phones.
Secondly Apple will use some of the iPhone's technology to produce new iPods. This will keep people who prefer the simplicity of stand-alone devices happy and leave upstarts like MS's Zune choking in its dust.
That is not to say that the strategy doesn't have its risks. The high price point may see it come unstuck. My wife's Nokia N73 is superior in some ways to the iPhone (it has a 3MP camera and 3G support) and can be picked up for less than $500 without a contract. Also I have to question Apple's distribution strategy. Cingular doesn't seem to be all that popular judging by some of the posts in this thread and doesn't have a big enough footprint. Apple will need to to broaden the iPhone range and find other partners.
Ultimately though I suspect that Apple's genius for producing products that look beautiful and are a joy to use will win a lot of converts to the iPhone. The iPhone will probably never be as dominant a product as the iPod due to the fierce competition it faces but I have no doubt that it is going to shake things up in a big way.
There was scepticism from many quarters that the iPhone would ever debut. Another school of thought went that it would just be a glorified iPod you could make calls on, the logic being it would be unwise to tinker with a winning formula.
So of course Apple goes and breaks the mould and delivers a device with features that many of us would have scoffed at less than 24 hours ago. This is a radical departure from the iPod, which isn't as feature-packed as some of its competitors but sells so well because of its superior user-friendliness and "cool" factor.
So on the face of it this is a big gamble for Apple. Actually I think that this a very shrewd move on its part.
Firstly it more than answers the challenge from cell phone companies like Nokia and Sony Ericsson, which threaten to encroach on Apple's turf with their multi-media phones.
Secondly Apple will use some of the iPhone's technology to produce new iPods. This will keep people who prefer the simplicity of stand-alone devices happy and leave upstarts like MS's Zune choking in its dust.
That is not to say that the strategy doesn't have its risks. The high price point may see it come unstuck. My wife's Nokia N73 is superior in some ways to the iPhone (it has a 3MP camera and 3G support) and can be picked up for less than $500 without a contract. Also I have to question Apple's distribution strategy. Cingular doesn't seem to be all that popular judging by some of the posts in this thread and doesn't have a big enough footprint. Apple will need to to broaden the iPhone range and find other partners.
Ultimately though I suspect that Apple's genius for producing products that look beautiful and are a joy to use will win a lot of converts to the iPhone. The iPhone will probably never be as dominant a product as the iPod due to the fierce competition it faces but I have no doubt that it is going to shake things up in a big way.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 11:53 AM
iPhone is great, but it needs to support its GNU/Linux brethren.
http://www.petitiono...n/petition.html
http://www.petitiono...n/petition.html
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:26 PM
1. Cingular sucks...who cares?
Using San Francisco as an example <I think> of a city with free public WIFI...and several other U.S cities drafting by-laws/plans to have 'free' public WIFI, <an essential service taxed like roads or sewers> will you really need a cell provider in a few years? I mean, load skype on the iPhone, pay the 19$ to call land/cell lines, call other skype users for free...and hey-o no need for cingular, verizon or anyone else right?
2. I want GPS!
Ummm...why? You have Google maps intergration with the default location as where you are down to the minute and second...so why is there a need for GPS? I haven't seen a GPS device yet that will allow you to see satellite images with a map overlay or a fly to function anywhere.
3. This is a glorified whosit that I don't want phone capabilities for.
So don't get the phone capabilities? Just use the other functions...seems pretty obvious.
This thing is B/G and will be N compatible...so long as you're somewhere where there's someone stupid enough not to password protect thier router..literally everywhere...you're going to be able to surf the net for free, place calls for free, and IM your friends for free...I'm a poor UNI student and don't look forward to paying a monthly rate for landline/internet/cell provider...wait with the iphone...all I need is internet and if I'm picky or travelling more in the coming months/years cell...but also won't there be a pay as you go function? Man I'm rambling but all the complaints that have been levelled towards the iPhone IMHO are based on pretty shaky ground except the price complaint but again...its a comparable price and the price will drop for this obviously basic 1st gen model.
I say go Apple, go Iphone...I'm starting to save now...let's see...buy in August...that gives me approximately 233 days to save about 800$(taxes in Canada suck ass) so that means a little less than 4$ a day...or a cup of Starbucks coffee...seems reasonable to me.
ANNNND GO!
Edit - Smudges/Scratches...apparently they used 'a lot of silicon' in the interface according to Jobs...could be how to avoid these problems...we'll have to wait and see.
Using San Francisco as an example <I think> of a city with free public WIFI...and several other U.S cities drafting by-laws/plans to have 'free' public WIFI, <an essential service taxed like roads or sewers> will you really need a cell provider in a few years? I mean, load skype on the iPhone, pay the 19$ to call land/cell lines, call other skype users for free...and hey-o no need for cingular, verizon or anyone else right?
2. I want GPS!
Ummm...why? You have Google maps intergration with the default location as where you are down to the minute and second...so why is there a need for GPS? I haven't seen a GPS device yet that will allow you to see satellite images with a map overlay or a fly to function anywhere.
3. This is a glorified whosit that I don't want phone capabilities for.
So don't get the phone capabilities? Just use the other functions...seems pretty obvious.
This thing is B/G and will be N compatible...so long as you're somewhere where there's someone stupid enough not to password protect thier router..literally everywhere...you're going to be able to surf the net for free, place calls for free, and IM your friends for free...I'm a poor UNI student and don't look forward to paying a monthly rate for landline/internet/cell provider...wait with the iphone...all I need is internet and if I'm picky or travelling more in the coming months/years cell...but also won't there be a pay as you go function? Man I'm rambling but all the complaints that have been levelled towards the iPhone IMHO are based on pretty shaky ground except the price complaint but again...its a comparable price and the price will drop for this obviously basic 1st gen model.
I say go Apple, go Iphone...I'm starting to save now...let's see...buy in August...that gives me approximately 233 days to save about 800$(taxes in Canada suck ass) so that means a little less than 4$ a day...or a cup of Starbucks coffee...seems reasonable to me.
ANNNND GO!
Edit - Smudges/Scratches...apparently they used 'a lot of silicon' in the interface according to Jobs...could be how to avoid these problems...we'll have to wait and see.
