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[warlock7]

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One other reason to buy a Wii though...it gets people up of their lazy @$$es and forces them to MOVE to play their games.

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Actually, that's the funniest thing about the Wii. It doesn't require much more physical interaction than a simple flick of the wrist for most every title on the system. When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii. Nintendo wants you to buy into the hype, which sells systems.

[warlock7]

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It's not a good sign when your previous generation product outsells your next generation product. And it's not an out-of-stock issue either. Playstation 3s are available everywhere.
I think Sony made the mistake of appealling to those who were interested in the specs above everything else. When you do that, you have to remain the spec leader. A console just can't do that. Only a PC can do that with it's numerous upgradeable components. This is the reason people aren't flocking to the PS3. It costs as much as a PC, and a PC is a whole lot more upgradeable.
It's a shame too, because the PS3 is a nice product. I just don't see what it offers for the price. My Nintendo Wii costs less than half that of a PS3 and it's rejuvinated my interest in console video games.

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Actually, the PS2 isn't just outselling the PS3, it's outselling both the 360 and the Wii too. The only gaming device outselling the PS2 is the Nintendo DS. This is actually where Sony didn't screw up like the other two players in this market. By offering the PS3 at a premium with a limited selection of titles but a vast library of PS2 games, it makes sense to continue to offer the last gen system, which competes very nicely with the Wii in terms of graphics capabilities. Microsoft and Nintendo killed off their previous incarnations (XBox and GameCube) alltogether. Yet Sony is still outselling them with the PS2. This is very telling of how this market actually works and regardless of what all the naysayers claim, Sony still rules the roost.
This market is not based on early adopters, it's based on the long term purchasers, those that are happy to play the PS2 until the price comes down on the PS3 or until all of the benefits of the PS3 are more readily available to the average consumer. They still have their library of games from the PS2 and are happy to continue playing them on the new system.
Watch out making off the cup remarks about how telling anything about Sony still selling more units than any other company is when you really look at it, they're still the number one video game company.

[warlock7]

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Because their quality control sucks total a$$.

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Interesting, I've heard from both sides of this question. I have had three PS1s and three PS2s, all were replaced by Sony free of charge long after going out of warranty. I've also got a 15 year old 27" and a 9 year old 56" projection screen, neither of which has ever had an issue. We have two Sony DVD players in the house that have never had problems as well as a DVD burner in my Mac. I also have a Sony camcorder that has gone through the ringer and still works like a charm. So, I come from the opposite perspective.
From my experience Sony quality control is fantastic and I've had great experiences with every product of theirs that I've ever had.

[d00d]

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When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii.

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Uh huh. That's why I still play my Wii constantly. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
I just don't understand why PS3 fans feel so threatened by the Wii. It's a ton of fun at a fraction of the price. Made a lot more sense to me (I guess I'm one of those willing to put up with "only family titles").

[Peter Cohen]

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[I've also got a 15 year old 27" and a 9 year old 56" projection screen, neither of which has ever had an issue.

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This will be horrible news for my boss, who has a 60-inch Sony (SD) set that's a few years old that he's desperately hoping will die soon so his wife will let him get a new HDTV. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Rugby]

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When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii.

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Uh huh. That's why I still play my Wii constantly. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
I just don't understand why PS3 fans feel so threatened by the Wii. It's a ton of fun at a fraction of the price. Made a lot more sense to me (I guess I'm one of those willing to put up with "only family titles").

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I am an old fan of Nintendo but when PS 1 was launched I converted. I like the Sony concept that you can use (most, not all) old games on the new machine (as on PS2) and Blue Ray...nice touch as is the HD so once it will be launched "overe here" I might be tempted. Yup it is expensiv. As you mention not all are for the family games and personally I have had enough of Manga style characters, but hey just an opinion... I miss Zelda though /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Erosloniec]

Count me as one who will avoid all Sony products in the future. Like the earlier poster, had 2 different Sony Camcorders that quit working, a 6 year old 32" TV that has required service twice (of course at my cost), and a VCR that died an early death. None of them abused in any manner. Great products when they work....

[warlock7]

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When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii.

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Uh huh. That's why I still play my Wii constantly. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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Come on, let's be real and not rationalize here. The reason you are playing your Wii constantly is because you don't have either of the other two systems, I would bet that if you did you would catch the image quality fever, like I have, and you'd spend more time playing the other two even though you find the Wii to be more "fun".

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I just don't understand why PS3 fans feel so threatened by the Wii.

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I don't see any PS3 fans that are threatened by the Wii, it's not in the same class. As for myself, I have all three next-gen systems and I am platform agnostic with regards to video game consoles. To be quite honest, I'd rather play Resistance or Gears of War on the PS3 or 360 than I would play any Wii title. The Wii, however has it's place, it's a niche that's meant for the non-gamers. I play the Wii when there is a group at my house or even just playing with my wife, she won't touch the PS3 or the 360, but she's content to play the Wii with me, that's really why I got it, my wife is tired of being a video game widow. Also, every single person that sees the PS3 and the 360 in action all agree that there is simply no comparison in image quality.

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It's a ton of fun at a fraction of the price. Made a lot more sense to me (I guess I'm one of those willing to put up with "only family titles").

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It's not about the titles, it's about the overall experience. When you own an HDTV, you tend to watch HD shows only. The same thing holds true when looking at video game consoles, I think. Once you've played the 360 and the PS3 titles, you don't really want to go back to the SD images on the Wii.
IMHO, COD3 is unplayable on the Wii due to the graphics capabilities of the system. If I hadn't played the PS3 or the 360 versions then I might think differently about it too, once you go to the HD feeds of the 360 and the PS3 the cross platform titles are a no-brainer. Unless it's a Wii exclusive or the control schemes get vastly better, then the other two platforms are the ones you buy the games for.

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You cannot compare the Wii to the Playstation 3. Thats like comparing a Jetta to a Mercedes.

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More like comparing a Jetta to an RV. I already have a house. I don't need an RV. I concede that while right now the PS3 is the cheapest way of getting a Blu-ray DVD player, by the time there is enough Blu-ray content available to make purchasing a player worthwhile, it won't be. Dedicated players will be sub-$500 too. I wonder how many people still use a PS2 as their dedicated DVD player?

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The Wii is a family oriented video game platform. The XBox 360, and the PS3 are gaming platforms with home entertainment capabilities.

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I have a TV, I have a DVD player. I want a game machine. It doesn't have to do everything. The Wii fits the bill and costs less. The PS3 doesn't seem to offer anything more than the PS2 I already own does except for HD. Sorry, I want more than just higher resolutino graphics.

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As far a price goes most people have fallen into the Dell -vs- Macintosh trap. They see a $400 Dell and the $1,000 Mac and assume that Dells are cheaper than Macs. Although after one specs out the Dell to equal the Macintosh they find the Mac in some cases is actually cheaper.

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The only spec that matters for a game machine is how fun it is to play. HD does not make a game more fun.

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It all depends in what you are looking for. If you are looking to spend a enjoyable hour or two with the kids playing games that the entire family can play then by a Wii... I did. If you are looking for a home entertainment system that plays games, movies, music, and will become a entry level digital hub then buy a Playstation 3.

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True - it does depend on what I am looking for - a game machine that is fun. I have no interest in Blu-ray right now, because the content is limited, and the few movies that are available cost too much anyway. That just leaves games, movies, and music - based on your criteria, the PS2 fits the bill with the exception of HD.
However, your assertion that the Wii is for playing games with the kids is tired. It's simply not true - adults are flocking to the Wii in droves - adults that don't have kids.
I don't know why PS3 fans get so defensive. There's room in the market for the Wii, XBox, and PS3 - I just think, for my needs, the PS3 doesn't offer anything new.

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Actually, that's the funniest thing about the Wii. It doesn't require much more physical interaction than a simple flick of the wrist for most every title on the system. When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii. Nintendo wants you to buy into the hype, which sells systems.

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I think everyone who has tried a Wii has figured out that you don't need to jump around to play. Except for the few that threw their remotes into their TVs. Going through the motions is what makes the game fun.
Why would I want figure out how to flick the remote to simulate making a Tennis stroke when I could actually just make a tennis stroke?
I find it laughable that you blindly assert people playing Wii look like tools. As if hunched down into the couch covered in Cheetos dust getting fat and playing Grand Theft Auto is a sight for sore eyes.

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Actually, that's the funniest thing about the Wii. It doesn't require much more physical interaction than a simple flick of the wrist for most every title on the system. When enough people realize that they don't need to jump around looking like complete tools, there won't be as many playing Wii. Nintendo wants you to buy into the hype, which sells systems.

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I think everyone who has tried a Wii has figured out that you don't need to jump around to play. Except for the few that threw their remotes into their TVs. Going through the motions is what makes the game fun.

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Isn't this contradictory? You say going through the motions is fun then turn around and say you don't need to go through the motions.

[warlock7]

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I think everyone who has tried a Wii has figured out that you don't need to jump around to play. Except for the few that threw their remotes into their TVs. Going through the motions is what makes the game fun.

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It takes motion to make the game fun? Interesting how that works. For the past 30+ years I guess that we haven't been having fun sitting on the couch and not jumping around.

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Why would I want figure out how to flick the remote to simulate making a Tennis stroke when I could actually just make a tennis stroke?

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Well, you've already stated that everybody that plays a Wii already figured that out so it wouldn't take any "figuring out". Nope, most people playing on a Wii aren't aware and probably do believe that they need to jump around. Heck, read the forums, many believe that they need to jump up in the air to get their "Mii" to jump too, when in fact the Wii-mote doesn't detect jumping at all in that game.

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I find it laughable that you blindly assert people playing Wii look like tools.

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Huh? Why? They do. You, me and everybody else look like a tool when I stand in front of my TV doing things that are way over the top to accomplish what can be done with a wrist flick. I haven't met anybody that wasn't embarrassed when they found out that the same thing can be accomplished without the need to jump around.

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As if hunched down into the couch covered in Cheetos dust getting fat and playing Grand Theft Auto is a sight for sore eyes.

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I find it laughable that you blindly assert people playing GTA are covered in Cheetos dust and are getting fat. Give me a break... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[warlock7]

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This will be horrible news for my boss, who has a 60-inch Sony (SD) set that's a few years old that he's desperately hoping will die soon so his wife will let him get a new HDTV. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I sympathize with him... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif