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Microsoft hits Google over book search model

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 06:06 PM

We have no "fair use" in the UK but discussion about this is underway.
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Posted 06 March 2007 - 06:11 PM

seanmcg is a Gentleman (or other) and a Scholar.
Proper research was done and a conclusion reached based on facts.
Enough said.
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Posted 06 March 2007 - 06:37 PM

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If they had stopped there, I would disagree with TomTom. However, I noticed the little radio button that says "full view." When I saw what that brought up, that changed my mind. If they had left it at a full text search, or like the example above, I would say they were performing a service. But showing the full scanned book, if it is not in the public domain, appears to violate copyright.


Whoa there, take a look at what you're complaining about. Full View only applies to books that are out of copyright, so it's completely OK. I couldn't find The Old Man And The Sea via Full View, but I did find some public domain texts that make mention of it.
From Google's web site:
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Google Book Search has always helped users discover and read out-of-copyright books online. With the addition of PDF downloads, Google now allows Internet users all over the world to download (and therefore print and read offline) these same out-of-copyright books. To find books you can download, click on the Full view books radio button before entering your search terms. Clicking on the Download button shown on public domain books will allow you to download a PDF of the book to your computer.


I think offering full out-of-copyright texts for PDF download is a great service.
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Posted 07 March 2007 - 08:00 AM

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If they had stopped there, I would disagree with TomTom. However, I noticed the little radio button that says "full view." When I saw what that brought up, that changed my mind. If they had left it at a full text search, or like the example above, I would say they were performing a service. But showing the full scanned book, if it is not in the public domain, appears to violate copyright.


Whoa there, take a look at what you're complaining about. Full View only applies to books that are out of copyright, so it's completely OK. ...


And look at what I said
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But showing the full scanned book, if it is not in the public domain, appears to violate copyright

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With thanks to TomTom, I didn't do full research, and I knew it, which is why I qualified my statement. I think Google is walking a very tight line here.
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