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'1984' owner speaks out on Obama YouTube video

#29 User is offline   Peter Cohen Icon

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 01:57 PM

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So you never have chicken for dinner?


Yeah, I was thinking about the various bipeds I have eaten after posting that. Makes for a catchier slogan, tho.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:40 PM

I'm stumped. What "various bipeds" have you eaten? We've covered foul. You eat monkey, or kangaroo? Prairie dog?
I guess my brain isn't quite working. I'm probably missing something basic.
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#31 User is offline   Peter Cohen Icon

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:42 PM

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I'm stumped. What "various bipeds" have you eaten? We've covered foul.


Fowl. And no, we haven't. We've covered chicken.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:51 PM

Fowl. D'oh! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
You're right. We've covered chicken.
But we didn't cover NO legs! Now there's a way to ruin a credo. "Four legs good! Two legs bad! No legs...uhhhhhhh."
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#33 User is offline   Peter Cohen Icon

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:54 PM

Fish don't have legs. Neither do mollusks. Mmm.
Plus there are the tasty critters that have a multitude of delicious legs; crabs, lobsters...
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:57 PM

Stop it! You're making my mouth water! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Another "no legs" that I thought of is vegetables. And fruit.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 04:20 PM

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Another "no legs" that I thought of is vegetables. And fruit.


Yeah, but they can't fight back. Where's the sport?
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 04:21 PM

News flash: The estate of William Shakespeare is suing the estate of Arthur Laurents for copyright violations and blatant plagiarism for stealing Romeo and Juliette's plot line for West Side Story.
The 1984 spot was a single commercial, aired only once, and the oblique homage to George Orwell's book was only one of a multitude in contemporary literature and film. My opinion of Ms. Rosenblum's response would unquestionably qualify as a throughtcrime.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 04:23 PM

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Another "no legs" that I thought of is vegetables. And fruit.



Yeah, but they can't fight back. Where's the sport?

Well, I love veggies now, but when I was a kid, asparagus used to try to fight its way back out of my throat.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 05:13 PM

Go ahead, Peter, get pedantic. It did satirize it. It also dramatized it. Look it up, wise guy.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 05:26 PM

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a novel that satirized the lack of free speech


Sorry to get pedantic, but satire 1984 most definitely was not. It was a cautionary tale on the dangers of totalitarianism.


Actually Peter, wasn't the whole point of NewSpeak to reduce vocabulary to a level where one could not express themselves freely? The vocabulary slowly gets smaller every year (which keeps people from noticing its been happening), and the result is eventually it is impossible to speak or think in terms that differ from the party lines, as there is no longer language to describe those ideas.

The explanation that 1984 is simply about totalitarianism does have some truthiness to it, though.


kind of like how a certain act of congress effects American civil liberties.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 04:09 PM

There are tons of parodies of Apple's "1984" Macintosh commercial, including my own Macworld 1984, a cartoon I produced for the Macworld Live! with David Pogue talk show presentation at Macworld Expo San Francisco 2005. I figure that as long as parody creations don't recycle any footage from original sources (like the Clinton-Obama 1984 YouTube "mashup"), they are protected under the law.
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