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They are forcing the user to go with the Master Suite.
I am in the same boat as you and have now decided to buy the master suite as I need both inDesign and Fireworks plus the full web and print bundle.
Their Marketing Dept. got up early on this one.
Creative Suite preview: Fireworks CS3
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 08:07 AM
The only thing you're gaining with the MS is the video capabilities. If you need video save the money and buy what Apple is going to bring to the table next. I think it will be better and cheaper.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:33 AM
I'm in the same boat as you, Dan
Since my tasks are being pulled more into online work, I'm pretty much forced to deal with getting the Master suite. Some of the pairings do look strange. Yes, there may be some who need few of the apps--but those may even be better served by purchasing upgrades to individual apps instead.
Will be mulling over a lot. With all the web work I have had, I have been leaning more on Fireworks, Flash, and of course Dreamweaver...
Since my tasks are being pulled more into online work, I'm pretty much forced to deal with getting the Master suite. Some of the pairings do look strange. Yes, there may be some who need few of the apps--but those may even be better served by purchasing upgrades to individual apps instead.
Will be mulling over a lot. With all the web work I have had, I have been leaning more on Fireworks, Flash, and of course Dreamweaver...
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:35 AM
That isn't all. Some of the lower-cost offerings have Fireworks, or InDesign, but not both...
Some of us do traditional print, photography, and online work. We will be paying dearly...
Some of us do traditional print, photography, and online work. We will be paying dearly...
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:44 AM
I was hoping CS3 would come out before June, while I still qualify for the student discount, which is substantial. And I was leaning toward the Master Suite because it has all the programs I use a lot and some I use less frequently, before I began looking closely at prices.
But if I forego Premier, After Effects, Soundbooth and Encore, I can save $300 by getting the Web Premium bundle and buying InDesign separately. Still, that's a lot of software for $300. It's tempting.
To check out all the Adobe education prices, go to http://www.adobe.com...on_pricing.html. It's worth taking a class or two at your local junior college just to qualify.
But if I forego Premier, After Effects, Soundbooth and Encore, I can save $300 by getting the Web Premium bundle and buying InDesign separately. Still, that's a lot of software for $300. It's tempting.
To check out all the Adobe education prices, go to http://www.adobe.com...on_pricing.html. It's worth taking a class or two at your local junior college just to qualify.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 03:01 PM
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Some of us do traditional print, photography, and online work. We will be paying dearly...
Some of us do traditional print, photography, and online work. We will be paying dearly...
I know. I do everything from business cards to promotional items to web design and video. It would cost me $2,000 to upgrade to the Master. If I spend $500 on the Web Premium and $200 on InDesign, then I could take the other $1,300 and buy Apple's Final Cut Studio. I'm current using Final Cut Express and sometimes Vegas. I'm pumped about the new version of Final Cut and am hoping that one rumor comes true and they include Shake or the technology of Shake.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 06:47 PM
I for one will miss ImageReady. The Fireworks UI has been a mess since 1.0. For those of us who design pages using an image editor, ImageReady leveraged all of my Photoshop skills, and yes I use a lot of CSS, but still need to create pages using complex tables which isn't easy for those of us who don't code complex tables via text in our sleep. Anything of mine that came out of ImageReady went into BBEdit for code cleanup. For those who look down on visual designers, I think all of us have suffered with sites crafted by programmers and PHP masters who don't grasp the first thing about usability or information design.
