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PC ripping off the Dock idea.

#1 User is offline   conky Icon

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Posted 18 January 2003 - 06:02 PM

I think its kind of funny how they knock the Mac all the time. Then they rip off Mac ideas like the Dock and bring it to Winblowzs. If I am right apple was the one that came up with the idea right?
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 06:08 PM

It's true that Windows copies many things from the MAC, however the Dock is not one of them. Windows has used a dock for many years now.
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 06:11 PM

Really I did not know that. When did it exactly come out for windows?
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 06:28 PM

no, the Windows Dock-like feature is the way windows of the same app minimize in 1 position on the taskbar... and then you choose which window by control-clicking on the app's icon.
And yes, the Dock is almost the same as the taskbar... but it was already there in the NextStep OS, i think.
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 07:09 PM

Ok I see what you where talking about. I was kinda thinking about the task bar.
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 08:49 PM

Windows has had its taskbar since the early 90's right? Maybe NeXTStep was first but it was on the side, not the bottom. Actually in the Taskbar it is a lot easier to tell between programs that are running and not running. And the Start menu on the left makes more sense than Apple forcing your pop-up folders to sit on the right next to the Trash, because it makes pop-up submenus open to the left instead of the right when they hit the right edge of the screen. It's all backwards unless you read Arabic all the time (right to left). Apple could copy a lot more good ideas from the Taskbar. They already copied Alt-Tab switching (it's Control-Tab on the Mac). I also wish they would put back letting you drag a window with an edge other than just the top. The Dock icon control-click menus are pretty useful though.
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Posted 18 January 2003 - 10:15 PM

Here's the scoop:
NeXT was using the dock way back with NEXTStep back in the late 80's/early 90's. Microsoft implemented the taskbar and the Start menu with the introduction of Windows 95 (appropriately, in 1995). Mac OS X revived the dock from NEXTStep when Apple acquired the rights to it, but took it a little further by refining its look and adding new features.
I personally prefer the dock to the taskbar because it allows you to easily open an app you use often without having to go through lots of submenus (as in the Start menu) to find it. It also actually has a screenshot of the window you minimized so you don't have to guess by looking at a title, like you do in the task bar. (If the taskbar has lots of minimized windows in it, the buttons become smaller, therefore cutting off most of the title text. Talk about productive.) This has changed with the introduction of Windows xp, but it still doesn't make it as easy as Mac OS X, where you can actually see the window you minimized and not just a title.
Windows also clutters the task bar even more with the task tray, which has all the icons of programs running as well as the buttons in the task bar.
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Posted 19 January 2003 - 10:01 PM

The one feature that Microsoft's OS still wins in is the taskbar/dock. The taskbar is simply more intuitive, accessible, and with the use of sub-menus much more comprehensive too.
APPLE:
Copy the taskbar please...you almost got it with the dock but not quite.
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Posted 19 January 2003 - 10:25 PM

Using my windows pc everyday, the one feature i really miss is the dock. I guess it's always greener on the other side.
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Posted 20 January 2003 - 12:12 AM

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and with the use of sub-menus much more comprehensive too.



Not sure what u mean here.... I have submenus linked out of my doc.
I have my apps folder there and get all the options I would get by creating a new menu on the windows taks bar.
I took a ss to show what I mean, I may not be on the same track.
Picture Here
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Posted 20 January 2003 - 07:00 AM

sayitfast, the ss looks really coool /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I could just burn $120 for the Jaguar...AOL got X now and I hope their bring your own browser deal hookups with Safari...I believe(crossed mutiple fingers) I have a steady job now and I could just go for thee pussycat!!!!
BTW, sorry about being a bit of topic /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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