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I have g4 cube that currently runs OS9.2 without problem. I think the machine has a 450Mhz processor and aprox. 350mb's of RAM.
I am trying to intall 10.4.6 off a DVD that came with my friends MacBook.
I hold down the C key to begin the install process but after displaying the grey apple for about 25 seconds it goes into Kernal Panic with the same error message as in this forum:
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Am I trying to attempt the impossible?
any help would be great, thanks.
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kernal panic with g4Cube upon 10.4.6 upgrade
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:36 PM
I actually observed this very problem yesterday on my boss's Titanium PowerBook... There are a couple of possibilities of what could be wrong and therefore various solutions.
In your case though I think the problem is you're trying to use a MacBook disc in a Cube. Unless I'm mistaken the installers are different for PPC machines to Intel machines. Notice how when you download updates there are updates specifically for PPC and specifically for Intel. If I'm wrong and it is supposed to work then...
Here are the steps I'd follow to find out what's up:
(1) Put the boot disk into your friend's MacBook and see if he can boot with it. If so you know the problem is either your Cube or the disc.
(2) Try to boot from another CD, either your OS9 disc or another OS X disc. Even a Windows or Linux disc will suffice we just need to determine if it's possible. If you can boot from another disc you know it's the disc's fault. If not then the problem is your computer.
If it appears to be the disc:
(1) Start the Cube up in Target mode (restart and hold the "T" key) and attach it to the MacBook. Try booting the disc via the MacBook and seeing if you can install the OS onto the Cube. You might also want to run Disk Utility on the Cube to double check it's not the drive is messing up.
(2) Get different disc that's from a PPC machine and try booting/installing from that. If still not then we're back to it being your computer.
If it appears to be the computer:
(1) Back-up everything. There's a chance that his might be a symptom of a worse problem and it'd suck for you to lose everything since you didn't back-up your data until it was too late. The chances of this being the hint of some major problem that would require a back-up are rather small but why risk it?
(2) Try booting up in Target Mode and connecting it to the MacBook. Run Disk Utility on your computer, preferably TechTool Pro or some other hardware test app if you can.
(3) If all comes back OK try installing OS X from the MacBook while you're connected in Target Mode. If you get back hardware errors, such as with your hard drive, logic board or RAM, then those could be what's causing the kernel panic.
If you still can't install but the hardware test comes back OK then it may simply be because you have OS 9 already installed on the machine.
In your case though I think the problem is you're trying to use a MacBook disc in a Cube. Unless I'm mistaken the installers are different for PPC machines to Intel machines. Notice how when you download updates there are updates specifically for PPC and specifically for Intel. If I'm wrong and it is supposed to work then...
Here are the steps I'd follow to find out what's up:
(1) Put the boot disk into your friend's MacBook and see if he can boot with it. If so you know the problem is either your Cube or the disc.
(2) Try to boot from another CD, either your OS9 disc or another OS X disc. Even a Windows or Linux disc will suffice we just need to determine if it's possible. If you can boot from another disc you know it's the disc's fault. If not then the problem is your computer.
If it appears to be the disc:
(1) Start the Cube up in Target mode (restart and hold the "T" key) and attach it to the MacBook. Try booting the disc via the MacBook and seeing if you can install the OS onto the Cube. You might also want to run Disk Utility on the Cube to double check it's not the drive is messing up.
(2) Get different disc that's from a PPC machine and try booting/installing from that. If still not then we're back to it being your computer.
If it appears to be the computer:
(1) Back-up everything. There's a chance that his might be a symptom of a worse problem and it'd suck for you to lose everything since you didn't back-up your data until it was too late. The chances of this being the hint of some major problem that would require a back-up are rather small but why risk it?
(2) Try booting up in Target Mode and connecting it to the MacBook. Run Disk Utility on your computer, preferably TechTool Pro or some other hardware test app if you can.
(3) If all comes back OK try installing OS X from the MacBook while you're connected in Target Mode. If you get back hardware errors, such as with your hard drive, logic board or RAM, then those could be what's causing the kernel panic.
If you still can't install but the hardware test comes back OK then it may simply be because you have OS 9 already installed on the machine.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:56 PM
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Am I trying to attempt the impossible?
In short, yes. The Intel version of OS X will not run on a PowerPC machine. Buy a legitimate copy of OS X for your cube if you want to install it. What you're trying to do is software piracy.
Am I trying to attempt the impossible?
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 03:04 PM
Your post is fairly moot, but let me respond to a couple things for pedantic reasons.
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(2) Try to boot from another CD, either your OS9 disc or another OS X disc. Even a Windows or Linux disc will suffice we just need to determine if it's possible. If you can boot from another disc you know it's the disc's fault. If not then the problem is your computer.
A PowerPC Mac will never boot from a Windows disc. It's possible to boot from a Linux disc, but it needs to be a PowerPC version. (2) Try to boot from another CD, either your OS9 disc or another OS X disc. Even a Windows or Linux disc will suffice we just need to determine if it's possible. If you can boot from another disc you know it's the disc's fault. If not then the problem is your computer.
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(3) If all comes back OK try installing OS X from the MacBook while you're connected in Target Mode. If you get back hardware errors, such as with your hard drive, logic board or RAM, then those could be what's causing the kernel panic.
Trying to install an OS from one machine onto another by using Target Disk Mode is asking for trouble. The Installer assumes that the host system is the one the installer is being run from, not the system in target disk mode. In fact, the installer has no idea there is another system present. As far as the hosting computer is concerned, the computer in target disk mode is just another firewire hard drive, nothing more. (3) If all comes back OK try installing OS X from the MacBook while you're connected in Target Mode. If you get back hardware errors, such as with your hard drive, logic board or RAM, then those could be what's causing the kernel panic.
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If you still can't install but the hardware test comes back OK then it may simply be because you have OS 9 already installed on the machine.
An existing OS 9 installation doesn't prevent OS X installation.
If you still can't install but the hardware test comes back OK then it may simply be because you have OS 9 already installed on the machine.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 03:13 PM
In my defence I first thought he was talking about a MacMini, which can be an Intel. Only after I remembered the Cube and that it was PPC did I rewrite some of my advice. Must have forgotten to remove Windows.
Though thanks for the notes about OS 9 and Target Mode installs. I've never installed via Target Mode myself but I knew it was possible since you can install to external volumes as it is. As for the OS 9 bit, I made the switch just when OS X 10 came around so I've never had to use OS 9.
Thanks for the clarification!
Though thanks for the notes about OS 9 and Target Mode installs. I've never installed via Target Mode myself but I knew it was possible since you can install to external volumes as it is. As for the OS 9 bit, I made the switch just when OS X 10 came around so I've never had to use OS 9.
Thanks for the clarification!
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