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This is a solid update regardless of the lack of SR.
It is obvious that the MB Pro is getting SR very soon and I'd bet a whole new enclosure with more business professional level features (biometric logins, encrypted disks, lowjack integration, Apple branded docking/replication solution, Apple branded carrying cases, etc.). /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Apple updates MacBook with faster processors
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:05 PM
Disappointing.
I've been waiting to get a new MacBook with Santa Rosa integrated graphics. An LED display would be nice too.
I plan on upgrading my MacMini when it also includes Santa Rosa and/or nonintegrated graphics options.
Looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer--hopefully not longer than the release of Leopard.
I've been waiting to get a new MacBook with Santa Rosa integrated graphics. An LED display would be nice too.
I plan on upgrading my MacMini when it also includes Santa Rosa and/or nonintegrated graphics options.
Looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer--hopefully not longer than the release of Leopard.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:09 PM
Hey all you MacBook people...quit your griping. At least the MacBook is getting upgraded. Try being a Mini User. I am waiting and waiting and waiting for Core2 Duo and 802.11n. Hmmm, y'all have had them for about the last 6 months. So, stop your whining, say Thank-you to Apple for the new components and get back to taking over the Windoze world...one Mac at a time.
Say a prayer for your MacMini brethren who are withering on the vine. the only attention from Apple we have had is a tiny speed bump last September. .16mhz speed bump, how dare we want more!
Maybe at WWDC when Steve has exhausted himself in regards to the iPhone he will announce a totally new MacMini. I can only hope.
Enjoy your upgrades. Remember, it could be worse. You could be using a Mini.
Tom
Say a prayer for your MacMini brethren who are withering on the vine. the only attention from Apple we have had is a tiny speed bump last September. .16mhz speed bump, how dare we want more!
Maybe at WWDC when Steve has exhausted himself in regards to the iPhone he will announce a totally new MacMini. I can only hope.
Enjoy your upgrades. Remember, it could be worse. You could be using a Mini.
Tom
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:10 PM
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$125 for black paint is out of touch with reality.
And Apple is laughing at being out of touch with reality all the way to the bank. People are apparently willing to pay $125 for black paint. Otherwise the price disparity would have disappeared long ago.
$125 for black paint is out of touch with reality.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:14 PM
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Very few non-3D games require this. So, if you don't play 3D first-person shooters or other graphically intense games, you should expect perfect graphic performance from a MacBook (or any other cheap computer).
I think what gets under people's skin and makes them gripe about this so much (and give others the false impression that their video is somehow going to look bad) is that the MacBook is perfect for them EXCEPT for the ability to play 3D games. And they don't want to pay an extra $1000 just to be able to play a game. So, they get angry. It's like Apple is holding some prize just out of reach for them.
Very few non-3D games require this. So, if you don't play 3D first-person shooters or other graphically intense games, you should expect perfect graphic performance from a MacBook (or any other cheap computer).
I think what gets under people's skin and makes them gripe about this so much (and give others the false impression that their video is somehow going to look bad) is that the MacBook is perfect for them EXCEPT for the ability to play 3D games. And they don't want to pay an extra $1000 just to be able to play a game. So, they get angry. It's like Apple is holding some prize just out of reach for them.
Another issue to consider is Apple's Core Image and Core Video. Apple's software such as Aperture, Final Cut, and even iMovie keep pushing the GPU more and more. And Apple does advertise Aperture as being able to run on a Mac Mini and MacBook. So for Apple to keep pushing GPU acceleration while at the same time selling computers with cheap integrated graphics is a disservice to customers.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:17 PM
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no true Mac User will ever consider a Windows machine over a Mac OS X one
no true Mac User will ever consider a Windows machine over a Mac OS X one
That's utter nonsense. If you are unwilling to honestly consider a Windows machine, then you have no data on which to support your theory that Macs are better. Faith is bad enough when applied to gods and unicorns. It is downright dysfunctional when applied to corporations or computers.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:18 PM
Those 950 graphics are a serious joke...pure fluff, almost totally useless.
I am so disappointed to hear this in this forum. The 950 chip-set is just fine for what it was designed for. Actually its power consumption and price point are praise worthy attributes.
Attempting to plow the field using your Kitchen fork and then dismissing the kitchen fork as a worthless invention is asinine.
So for the umpteenth time, the MacBook is not for folks trying to play Quake at 80 FPS, that is not the target. Get a hold of yourself and realise everything isn't for everyone but that doesn't make everything worthless.
I am so disappointed to hear this in this forum. The 950 chip-set is just fine for what it was designed for. Actually its power consumption and price point are praise worthy attributes.
Attempting to plow the field using your Kitchen fork and then dismissing the kitchen fork as a worthless invention is asinine.
So for the umpteenth time, the MacBook is not for folks trying to play Quake at 80 FPS, that is not the target. Get a hold of yourself and realise everything isn't for everyone but that doesn't make everything worthless.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:23 PM
It's too bad they still insist on the black tax.
I was at a clothing store yesterday. I saw a "T" in white on sale, the same "T" in black was not. I asked if that was a mistake and it was explained to me that the black has a higher demand.
You're in a supply/demand capital market (aka market economy). I suggest you accept its business practices, by default that's probably what keeps you employed :-)
I was at a clothing store yesterday. I saw a "T" in white on sale, the same "T" in black was not. I asked if that was a mistake and it was explained to me that the black has a higher demand.
You're in a supply/demand capital market (aka market economy). I suggest you accept its business practices, by default that's probably what keeps you employed :-)
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:37 PM
More than anything else, the integrated graphics reflect Apple's indifference to gaming, and therefore their indifference to a large part of the consumer market. The "Pro" part of the MacBook Pro name is totally meaningless to a consumer that's not a digital imaging/animation/whatever professional, but still wants to play games with the 3D settings at decent levels - and make no mistake, a lot of people fall into this category. If you want to play games at reasonable performance on an Apple laptop, your minimum expenditure is two thousand dollars, and that's simply absurd. It's not competitive at all with PC laptops.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:42 PM
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I've told some people at work who might consider switching to Mac not to waste their money on a MacBook or iMac with the integrated graphics. Of course, these are PC people who know how crappy integrated graphics are, so they totally agree with my assessment.
I've told some people at work who might consider switching to Mac not to waste their money on a MacBook or iMac with the integrated graphics. Of course, these are PC people who know how crappy integrated graphics are, so they totally agree with my assessment.
The Macbook with its integrated graphics can edit photos, play HD video, and do most other tasks just fine. It's a great machine at a great price. It's not a 3D game machine, and I don't think it should be. People who play 3D games often want a larger screen anyway - the MacBook Pro (or iMac) is more suitable to 3D gamers.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:49 PM
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That's utter nonsense. If you are unwilling to honestly consider a Windows machine, then you have no data on which to support your theory that Macs are better. Faith is bad enough when applied to gods and unicorns. It is downright dysfunctional when applied to corporations or computers.
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no true Mac User will ever consider a Windows machine over a Mac OS X one
no true Mac User will ever consider a Windows machine over a Mac OS X one
That's utter nonsense. If you are unwilling to honestly consider a Windows machine, then you have no data on which to support your theory that Macs are better. Faith is bad enough when applied to gods and unicorns. It is downright dysfunctional when applied to corporations or computers.
If you prefer the Mac OS to Windows then, Windows hardware is not a choice. That was my point.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:57 PM
You're in a supply/demand capital market (aka market economy). I suggest you accept its business practices, by default that's probably what keeps you employed :-)
yawn This is always the argument used, but it's a red herring when it comes to what I'm saying. I can understand how Apple can sustain the pricing model and why they choose to do so. It doesn't mean I have to like it and it doesn't make it a good thing either.
Apple delayed the release of Leopard. I understand the reasons, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Apple probably won't allow third party apps on the iPhone. They'll be able to still sell a ton despite that shortcoming, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Just because Apple can do something doesn't mean that they should. Defending this particular policy (especially considering black and white iPods are priced the same, despite a marked demand difference) comes dangerously close to Apple apologist behavior. If Apple raised the price of Leopard upgrades to $200 because it could, would you applaud that as well?
Here's what I want (and it doesn't say anything about accepting basic business theory): Apple to sweeten the pot of the black MacBook so at least on its face is a good deal and not significantly more expensive purely based on color. Bump up the RAM and hard disk. At Apple's bloated prices, they'd still be driving a large amount of profit while maintaining a decent value for the consumer.
yawn This is always the argument used, but it's a red herring when it comes to what I'm saying. I can understand how Apple can sustain the pricing model and why they choose to do so. It doesn't mean I have to like it and it doesn't make it a good thing either.
Apple delayed the release of Leopard. I understand the reasons, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Apple probably won't allow third party apps on the iPhone. They'll be able to still sell a ton despite that shortcoming, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Just because Apple can do something doesn't mean that they should. Defending this particular policy (especially considering black and white iPods are priced the same, despite a marked demand difference) comes dangerously close to Apple apologist behavior. If Apple raised the price of Leopard upgrades to $200 because it could, would you applaud that as well?
Here's what I want (and it doesn't say anything about accepting basic business theory): Apple to sweeten the pot of the black MacBook so at least on its face is a good deal and not significantly more expensive purely based on color. Bump up the RAM and hard disk. At Apple's bloated prices, they'd still be driving a large amount of profit while maintaining a decent value for the consumer.
