[tmedia1]

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You guys wrote:
"$500 or $600 and a 2 Year activiation plan and only with AT&T ... plus what other required plan features for how many more $$$ every month? I think, No thanks!"
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"I'm wondering the same thing. How much to go online, how much is the plan, the total cost for a mobile phone to use in the way that we saw in the keynote is going to be staggering."
I honestly don't understand negative comments such as this. You don't even know the details of the plan yet you are coming in here with a negative spin. If it is too much for you to spend, don't buy it. I for one have been dreaming of a phone that has all of the features and integration that the iPhone has. Our family will be buying two of them.

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These are legitimate questions/concerns, especially given the track record of cell phone companies to "stick it" to their customers. There's so much hype about the iPhone now that AT&T could really take advantage of the situation, I wouldn't be surprised to see VERY exorbitant data plans in this situation. I for one just bought the Treo 755P on Sprint and I am thrilled. I have a true 3G phone (iPhone is 2G) with email, web and google maps w/live traffic with an unlimited data plan for $15/month! You won't get that with the iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I'm not iPhone bashing, I think it's an awesome device and will probably get one in v.2 or 3, but for now, I'm very happy with the 755P on Sprint.

[hayesk]

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#2 is if you don't purchase data services, you shouldn't be buying that type of phone <period>

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Wow, that's such a BS statement. Given the data services on the iPhone work just fine over a Wi-Fi hotspot connection or in my home, why should I have to pay for a data plan?

[Ronald_Schoedel]

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When the iPod was first released, almost no one already had an mp3/music player.

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wrong! there were dozens if not hundreds of mp3 players when the ipod first came out. they just all sucked./

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Right! Which is why, as the OP stated, "almost no one" had one of these awful players. He didn't say there weren't players on the market...just that almost no one had one.
I bought a pre-iPod MP3 player in 2000, and sent it back for a refund. It s*cked big time. No MP3 player before the iPod did what I wanted. The iPod did, and still does.

[ludachrs]

Unbelievable, I keep hearing about PRICE PRICE PRICE $500 to $600 is too much. $40 for a data plan is also too much. Is there any phone you would pay $500 for? Probably not. So if there is not one phone that the price complainers would pay $500 for. Stop complaining. Please name one phone on the market today that you would pay $500 for. N95 some people will but not you. Treo (hahahahahahaha). Do any of the price complainers have a Data plan currently. NO. What do you people want a free ride. Apparently Apple should just give the phone away and AT&T should make the data plan $1 per year, right. Please stop complaining about a piece of technology you wouldn't buy because its too expensive, its ridiculous. No one cares if you don't buy it. Its better for me if you don't so I have a chance to get one when it comes out.

[Ronald_Schoedel]

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Wow, that's such a BS statement. Given the data services on the iPhone work just fine over a Wi-Fi hotspot connection or in my home, why should I have to pay for a data plan?

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Aren't data plans based on actual usage? So, if you get a data plan and never transfer any data over the AT&T network, isn't your cost zero? So, what's the big deal? Maybe I am wrong, though...

[j_drake]

I think that is right, we have camera phones but they only charges us when/if we send/forward pictures(data)to another phone.

[Spark]

"PLUS an EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE SERVICE CONTRACT!?"
To my knowledge AT&T has not released details on the service plans and costs to be offered with iPhone, so I assume that you are assuming. But you have a good point. For most people considering the early adoption of the iPhone, this is the only critical information that is missing. Frankly, I'd like to know what it is going to cost on a monthly basis to be able to get full function from an iPhone before I camp out to buy one. Why can't AT&T provide advance service plan details for the iPhone. If this info exists somewhere, please let me know.

[Mims]

i think we'll find that the price is just right when on June 30 the only iPhone you can find is on eBay for $1,500. supply and demand.
the question is not "is this too expansive for me," but rather "is this too expensive for the market." no one will know until July, but as an ad exec who helps companies with product launches, i'm sure that apple has done plenty of research to support their pricing model.

[JEB]

I think my friend went the the Developer's Conference WWDC when the iPod was first out -- It'd be pretty "Apple Dapper Coool" to repeat this kind of giveaway at WWDC '07 !!!
GO APPLE!!! GO iPHONE!!! GO SUPER SWAG!!!

[d00d]

Isn't a copy of the Leopard beta enough?

[flybynight]

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The only reason I'm aware of why the Cingular name is still used at all (transition's been long enough, after all) is because of a legal dispute with NASCAR over their right to change car logos/colors to match AT&T, because of Nextel being the "official sponsor" of the series.

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That doesn't make any sense to me. Just because Nextel is the "official" sponsor (read: Nextel Cup), doesn't mean that they can say who can or can't sponsor individual cars. If that were the case, there wouldn't have been a Cingular car in the first place... not to mention there is also an Alltel car.
Also note that "Nascar.com To Go" is available on nearly every cell carrier:
http://www.nascar.co...eless/carriers/

[flybynight]

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Why can't AT&T provide advance service plan details for the iPhone...

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Because Steve said so! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hillstones]

The iPhone is an amazing device for those that require the features that it offers. I do not need internet access as part of my phone plan, so I don't have a need for the iPhone and its features. If I did require those features, then I would already be paying a high price for a service plan and comparable smart phone, so the price of an iPhone is nothing shocking.
I think most people complaining about price have the cheapest plan and the free phone deal, so they expect everything to be free on the iPhone. No such thing as a free lunch.

[himbo]

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I'm due an upgrade to my phone, too. I've yet to receive one of these letters, but I imagine the same rule will apply to me, as well. I wasn't planning on getting an iPhone in its first iteration, anyway. I've got lots of money invested in Palm pharmacy/drug references & books, so that points me more and more toward a Treo, if I'm going to use a smartphone. Or, I could just get a Bluetooth phone to connect to my TX for internet browsing.
Perhaps an iPhone in another two years, I guess! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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As someone who purchased a T|X with that plan in mind, I'd advise you to double (and probably triple) check phone compatibility before you get one, expecting it to work. It turns out that the list of phones supported by the T|X is both arbitrary and short, and bluetooth phones that should by all rights be able to function as a modem for it are unable to because of lack of support on the T|X's end. And since Palm is no longer interested in updating products that customers have purchased, there doesn't appear to be any chance that the list of T|X-supported phones will ever grow.