[tgibbons242]

Everyone is losing it about the lack of new things in Leopard. Well here's a huge one... What about iLife '07?!?!??!

[Ventzi_Zhechev]

You beat me to that comment.
This is my point too: where ARE iLife'07 and iWork'07 ?!?!? /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Currently I'm fed up of waiting for the next version of Pages and I'm sitting down to write a Perl script that will do what Pages is supposed to do for me: cross-references.
And why Perl and not AppleScript you might ask well, because the AppleScript interface of Pages is poor as a church mouse, that's why.
My only hope is that Apple'll give us those suits as soon as Leopard's ready and that the delay is due to the heavy use of CoreAnimation etc.

[Moof_in_Charge]

Yeah, Apple really slapped their Mac developers in the face this year, particularly with the FAUX announcement of software development on the iPhone. Just plain awful.
How does anyone even begin to address a statement like that? Insults come to mind but I am not sure that would accomplish anything.

[moo083]

I think I know what is on everyone's minds. We are [censored] because the climax of Steve Jobs' keynotes is always the one more thing. In this case, yes, the Safari for Windows was pretty damn underwhelming, but I think we could have all looked past it if they had announced a full SDK for the iPhone. If they had done this, it would have been a wonderful keynote. But instead he got to the climax of the speech, and dropped us flat on our faces from the top of a building with no bungee cord or parachute. It was disappointing. Even if it were just an announcement of a coming SDK for the iPhone 6 months from now it would have been more exciting. I mean, thats the stuff developers want to hear. Not crap about an OS they don't even run (its a Mac Developer Conference, not Windows!). Sigh, I hope Apple comes out with that SDK eventually, and not baby developers with that crap "No SDK Needed".

[mmcgann11]

No whining at the writers if you can't spell "chagrin."
Seriously, with the seeming lack of sizzle from WWDC, I think people have the right to be a bit underwelmed. Wall Street seems to be.
With everything that was hyped, it's completely fair to call Apple to task for showing up lighthanded this week. Jobs raised some expectations and then failed to deliver. Don't kill the messenger.

[kill953]

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Steve Jobs' keynote featured a Leopard preview, a new version of Safari, and news about the iPhone. So how come Philip Michaels found it so underwhelming? <a href="http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/06/keynote_reax/index.php">[more]</a>

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Erm... Leopard hasn't been released yet. Did it occur to you that there will be another Keynote when it is? Do you think Apple/Jobs wanted to blow all the news at a Developer conference for a product that isn't available for several months? Personally, I think that the major news for Leopard will not just be the OS itself, but the Apple applications that get released alongside it. That is where the rest of the Top Secret things will come from. It's quite possible I am wrong and this really was it all, but I don't believe it.

[Moof_in_Charge]

This is my point too: where ARE iLife'07 and iWork'07 ?!?!?
Again Again Again..... This is the developer conference. The focus here is the OS not applications. iLife is an end user product.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprise to see Apple hold another event after the launch of the iPhone around September-October time frame. The OS hasn't even been released yet. Do you go out right now to buy applications for an unreleased OS yet? I mean how can any application vendor (INCLUDING APPLE) make an application for a developing OS or announce features based on something that may or may not be part of the final release ??????
I have an idea, why don't they release iLife 2220 now and just be done with it?

[MacJoe]

At the keynote, Steve did not say Secret No. 1 is, etc.
I believe he did not reveal all in public because something in the OS and New hardware for October are related such that to reveal one is to reveal the other.
Stand by, October is coming.

[daneb]

Being the World-Wide DEVELOPERS Conference I think the keynote started everything off very well. Sure there weren't any groundbreaking announcements or product releases, but I think what we were shown was quality material and in-line with what a developer's (not hardware or Macworld) conference should be.
I think with the change of Apple's name and the focus on the different businesses that they are involved in, we should expect a WWDC to be like this. Why should be expect an iPod at the WWDC when developers (except for the few EA games on iPod) have nothing to do with it? New iMacs would have been nice, but once again this conference was geared towards Leopard from the very first details that emerged.
As for Leopard... Let's be honest, it already has the same features as Vista because MS copied many of them--if you doubt this for once second try Vista for a few hours and you'll see. I use it at work all the time and the copying is blatantly obvious. Anyway, I think Leopard will be more groundbreaking, in terms of features, than was Tiger when it was released. I think people are expecting more because of 1)What they've been reading into it, and 2)The delay until October for its release. Speaking of the latter, no one should expect more because it's been pushed back several months when Apple themselves said it was because of the effort being put into the iPhone. They didn't say "We're pushing it back because all these new fancy features are taking us longer!"
Let's be realistic people. The iPhone is one of the biggest launches in Apple history, and is perhaps one of the most innovative products to be released from ANY company. Whether or not it will sell is yet to be seen--Apple is trying to crack an already well-established market.
Did you really expect Apple to release a multi-touch iPod when the iPhone launch is just a couple weeks away? Come on, they're not going to compete with themselves.

[Moof_in_Charge]

Sorry about the typo lol
There was no lack of sizzle for this year's WWDC. There were plenty of ohhs and ahhhs from the developer community. If you take a look at the venue (the 300 or so sessions on MacOS X) you would see some drool worthy topics that would make any developer's bacon sizzle.
What was hyped??? the hype factor comes from the pending iPhone release. It's going to come out June 29, what kind of hardware announcement could Apple possibly make to make you jump from your seat? Bigger storage iPods (yawn)... faster Macs (they've been doing it all year) Different laptops (you just got the new Macboook Pro)...

I don't get it, I really don't get it, half of these #^$! think this is supposed to be a Broadway show...
Apple deserves a lot of credit.

[Philip Michaels]

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Erm... Leopard hasn't been released yet. Did it occur to you that there will be another Keynote when it is?

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No, it didn't occur to me. But that's just because apart from a press event in 2001 right before the 10.0 launch, Apple has never held such an event.

[k88dad]

I vote with my wallet. This will be the first version of OS X that I pre-order.

[Jason Snell]

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Developer conference is for developers only.

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The keynote at the Developer conference is covered by the mass media, media from all over the world. It is not just a developer event -- it is a mass marketing event.
There's been no new Mac hardware roll-out in the last six months. iLife and iWork are MIA. No truly new full-size iPods in nearly two years. There's a lot out there.

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Apple cant go out and build a new OS every year

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That's good since they haven't done so since 2005.

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or the rest of the folks who went there to "LEARN" about the Apple's new OS, the experience was vastly different and rewarding.

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Especially if they missed last year's keynote, which contained seven of the 10 features.

[Terrin]

You felt it underwhelming because like every Apple event everybody other then Apple hyped it up. For instance, so called legitimate news sources claimed Google and Apple would likely make some big announcement about .Mac even though neither Google or Apple said anything to that effect. Then our favorite Apple analyst Gene what ever his name is was talking about how Leopard would likely put Parallels out of business by being able to run Windows applications without WIndows.
Of course, a little responsibility can be thrown at Apple because Jobs did say Leopard had secret features that it couldnt' reveal yet. What Steve delivered was nice had he not touted the secret features. However, I have faith in Apple. I suspect Apple has things going on with Leopard that it simply wasn't ready to release. For instance, when Leopard ships I suspect iLife and iWorks will be updated to take advantage of Leopard features. Since, .Mac is part of iLife, I suspect that is when we will see the implied overhaul there. I also think we will see a lot of integration with the iPhone and Apple TV. Apple isn't going to demo any of that until all these products are shipping.
Moreover, I do not see how developers would expect Apple to open the iPhone up, at least at this point. Apple invested millions on the phone, and pretty much placed its whole reputation on the line. It has to deliver. There is no way it is going to allow some third party applications to crash the phone, where the blame of course will be placed on Apple not the the third party. The iPod is stable largely because Apple maintains such control over it. APple will probably be more willing to open it up after it has sold plenty of them and established itself as selling a kick butt phone.
I also suspect that after the iPhone ships you will see Apple be able to do more.

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Steve Jobs' keynote featured a Leopard preview, a new version of Safari, and news about the iPhone. So how come Philip Michaels found it so underwhelming? <a href="http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/06/keynote_reax/index.php">[more]</a>

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