[MacJoe]

I also thought the keynote was remarkable in that the dog did not bark in the night.
Even though Zetta appears to be used for Time Machine, No one from Solaris appeared on stage, and no one mentioned Solaris or Zetta directly.
My sense of this is that they will never be mentioned by Apple or in its literature. Ever!
Sort of an ice sickle through the heart, the intended is dead, but no one can find a weapon.

[bsfa]

I run a Mac-only small company. While the keynote may have been underwhelming, I'm extremely pleased with what wasn't mentioned, such as iCal, easier networking, Safari's better support of JS and other internals that are important for web-apps, and what not. Check out Apple's site, there is tons of useful stuff.
Bert

[bones21]

Philip Michaels is right.

It was the first time I turned off the key note...

I'm a Mac lover, just like everyone else here, but there was nothing revolutionary announced yesterday.

It was completely lackluster !

This is only adding to the strikes against Apple.
1st they completely drop the ball on 10.5 to push the insanely expensive iPhone... now they show us their "best" 10 features and everyone is scratching their heads. I know I am.

Oh, and look at # 10... Safari !!! Wow, a web browser that no one will ever truly stick to. Not in a world with Firefox /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

They've had so much time to shape the next OS into something worthy of awe but they are actually taking steps backwards.

They basically took several older items and just repackaged them. Think I'm crazy ? Take a look at the top 10 features and then do a search on some of them.
Not to mention the fact that there are still plenty of bugs that they have NEVER addressed or fixed in 10.4.X

It's like our national immigration debate... Let's enforce (fix 10.4) the laws that we have instead of creating new ones (10.5).

Also, did anyone notice how many times the word "cool" was uttered ? Way too many times for a company that is supposed to push the technology and innovation envelope.

Apple is selling out to some degree and we (dedicated users) are the ones suffering. They only care about market share now. Intel transition, expressed Windows usability, Apple Inc. designation, iPhone, extended gaming platform now, etc.

I believe these are good things but they should come second to the OS. I'm just not seeing the dedication to OS that Apple once had.

While I love OS X, I saw nothing yesterday that was any kind of secret. Microsoft is probably as confused as many Mac users right now.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Call me what you will... but I was not impressed by the "new" OS.

One last note... Anyone notice that AAPL dropped 4+ points after the key note ?

Food for thought there.

Well, I love my Mac and I hope that I am surprised when 10.5 is released... if not, then I will stick with 10.4 for a while. I see no need, nor do I have a desire, to change.

Peace yall /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[jscottk]

I think we're finally seeing the true cost of the iPhone: Stunted Mac development. Which became VERY evident with this filler filled keynote (for those of you who keep track, Coverflow couldn't have been one of Leopards super secret features at WWDC '06, Apple didn't own it then).
What did Jobs say at MacWorld? "A year of exciting Mac announcements?" So, lets check the scorecard for the first 6 months shall we? No new iLife, no new iWork, no new Macs, no new displays, no new Mac designs, Leopard delayed until October, and the super secret mind blowing new features of Leopard turned out to be making Finder windows look like iTunes. Hmmm, not very "exciting."
Not happy.

[Moof_in_Charge]

It is not just a developer event
Did Steve Jobs come out and say this event is all about MacOS X? I think the member of the news media have chosen to make this event in to something it's not supposed to be (all be it Apple's marketing has done nothing to stop it)
There's been no new Mac hardware roll-out in the last six months
There is a new Mac announcement whenever there are new products available from Intel which is apple-worthy. So I am not sure anyone can stick a bat to Apple for not releasing a new Mac.

That's good since they haven't done so since 2005
Sorry to be snide but maybe you should roll up your sleeve and write it up yourself or perhaps follow Microsoft, I hear they're much faster at it. Not only Apple introduced a new application for Windows, but they also introduced a new variation of their OS for the iPhone. So I think your assessment is incorrect.

Especially if they missed last year's keynote, which contained seven of the 10 features.
Bravo, that's the best thing you said /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The expectations come from you (by you I mean outsiders), Seems to me almost all the people whining about no new hardware announcement are all looking for a Can opener with an Apple logo. Apple hardware software engineers are all working very hard, the company is stretched and just about every division of the company is on overload because of the iPhone. On their behalf I'd like to apologize to all the masses for Apple's lack of ability to deliver their next kitchen utensil.

[hgwells]

First, I agree that the "developers" conference is not solely aimed at developers. Or perhaps I should say that the keynote address is not. It is one of two major opportunities each year for Apple to announce new products to the world and make a splash while doing so.
I hold out hope that Apple will introduce new hardware (displays!) or the very much missing iLife and iWork later this week or early next week. If not, it will be truly dismal. I got the feeling that SJ is trying to untrain people who wait to order products announced at the two major conferences each year. He does that by not announcing new things, especially at the keynote. Then, as has happened over the past few weeks, Apple simply does unscheduled announcements of upgrades.
But iLife and iWork?? Are we skipping a year on both? The non-announcement of new versions is very disappointing, especially iWork for me.
Well, maybe in the next few days...

[Moof_in_Charge]

it didn't occur to me. But that's just because apart from a press event in 2001 right before the 10.0 launch
Maybe it should occur to you since things are a tad different from 2001. Including the fact that Apple has since on occasion provided special invitation events to announce various new products. iPod HiFi was one such event.
This was the developer conference not a Broadway show and Steve Jobs preannounced that it will all be about MacOS X. Perhaps partly due to all the other criticism (upon iPhone's launch) that apple is not paying enough attention to MacOS X... Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

[richcon]

Apple did publicly announce that they're showing a "feature complete" version of Leopard at WWDC, and that the developer beta they're distributing is also feature complete.
http://www.macworld....ynote/index.php
That means: no more secret features. Everything's there in the beta, including the 290 other new features Steve Jobs didn't debut publicly on stage.

[Philip Michaels]

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it didn't occur to me. But that's just because apart from a press event in 2001 right before the 10.0 launch
Maybe it should occur to you since things are a tad different from 2001.

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Sorry -- I tend to base my predictions on multiple years of past experience.
But, in the spirit of opening up my mind, here are the things that could happen leading up to the Leopard launch. Remember, just because they've never happened before doesn't mean they won't happen now!

[*]Apple holds a special Leopard launch event despite not doing so for Tiger, Panther, Jaguar and whatever the heck 10.1 was called.
[*]Apple buys up three hours of prime-time programming on ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox so that Steve Jobs can give a televised demonstration of each feature.
[*]Steve Jobs personally calls every person in OS X's installed base to painstaking explain all 300 new features and enhancements.
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Or Apple does what it always does and just releases the OS X update. I mean it could go in any direction.

[atari]

Thank you Moof!
I have only registered here to say I am thankful that there is some sanity left on Mac boards.
Its WWDEVELOPERC,not "fill your newspage day".
Granted Apples way of spinning the PR mills often leads to exaggerated expectations,still,some perspective clearly is in order.

[bones21]

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This was the developer conference not a Broadway show and Steve Jobs preannounced that it will all be about MacOS X. Perhaps partly due to all the other criticism (upon iPhone's launch) that apple is not paying enough attention to MacOS X... Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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Perhaps it should occur to you that without users and converts (us, the public), then there would be no OS to develop. Ever think of that Apple apologist ?

This is a broadway show. Why else would there be live transcripts and video open to the world ? If this is for developers only, then make an Apple developer page that is password protected so only the developers can access it.

Jobs is making too many mistakes. He saw how powerful Apple became with the iPod... so he tried to conquer a market that no one invited Apple to... the cell phone market. The iPhone is the answer to a question no one asked.

Apple is stretched because they are making poorly calculated decisions. I believe Apple was doing just great before the iPhone. Everything was on track and expanding. Now we have a wag the dog WWDC OS announcement. It was almost like Jobs was saying "It's really cool, you should buy it".

The day that Apple puts their OS on the sideline, is the day that I stop supporting them (financially). The day has come. My Mac Pro should last me several years... enough time for Apple to pull it's head out of.. well you know.

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[stevo555]

I totally agree that the "Top Secret" features did not live up to the hype or the wait. But maybe Apple cut something big from the feature set the they could not pull off in time. After all, they did admit the iPhone distracted them and Leapord was delayed. Apple is also good at hiding things they couldn't deliver on time.

[horvatic]

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Steve Jobs' keynote featured a Leopard preview, a new version of Safari, and news about the iPhone. So how come Philip Michaels found it so underwhelming? <a href="http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/06/keynote_reax/index.php">[more]</a>

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I have no idea why. I thought the features in Leopard are fantastic and really makes Vista look like crap. Okay, they haven't gotten to the point where they can have developers write full applications on the iPhone yet . He said they were working on it but did give them the alternative for now. Maybe it wasn't the best "one more thing" but at least they have that option. I'm ready for leopard myself. Very excited about all the new features that are helpful and very cool. I think sometimes people over hype things to themselves and that's how it seems to feel like a let down when there own hype doesn't turn out.

[ChrisMyFirstMac]

I think we should realize that even though WWDC is a developer conference, it's the #2 event of the year for the most trend setting computer and consumer electronics company in world. It's where the CEO takes the stage for an hour and a half and talks about the future. CNBC covers it, it's on the front page of the business section, it's everywhere. And I think it's OK to expect Steve to deliver.
Steve had 5 audiences listening intently: You (consumers), the Media, Wall Street, Mac OS developers and Potential iPhone developers.
I wrote more about it in Why Job's Keynote Sucked for You and Me (but maybe not for iPhone developers) on MyFirstMac.com.
BTW, I think it's notable that he didn't refer to any more great features he can't talk about. We've seen the best.