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With iPhone out, attention turns to second-gen model

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Posted 05 July 2007 - 06:20 PM

The iPhone has only been out a week, but analysts and users are already talking about what a second-generation version of the phone might be like. more
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 09:46 PM

The iPhone already supports Quicktime.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 09:51 PM

Seems like Apple would be shooting themselves in the foot by using a battery-sucking 3G chip and not having a user replaceable battery. I hope Apple comes up with some new battery technology or some amazing power management software. Good luck with that. I think iPhone users are asking too much from such a slim device at this point in time. No one seems to accept compromises any more.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 10:13 PM

Has any site validated that the current iPhone cannot support 3G? Apple disabled 802.11N in the iMacs and Macbooks only to enable it later.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 10:47 PM

All I can say is I don't have any problems with EDGE. I think it suits my needs for the time being, and I do need the 8 hours of battery life probably more than most. Although I do work near a Starbucks and receive their WiFi signal which is real fast, but It's like driving a 454 chevy big block withy dual 4-bbl carbs on it. I can watch the gas gage drop when I step on it. Same goes for WiFi. It just drains the battery like crazy.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 11:40 PM

is this article trying to be misleading. i went to macrumors and the total average results of the iPhone test are:
Average Edge200.4667 kbps
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 11:54 PM

i just took the test at http://iphonenetworktest.com/.
my result on EDGE was 170 kbps in new york city.
another fud article.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:26 AM

Well, I for one have been testing my iPhone in various spots around Denver, Golden and Boulder Colorado. I got 36 to 45 kbps in parts around Golden. The best I've received is about 101 kbps in Downtown Denver and Boulder.
So I can't help that 200 kbps average people are talking about.
WiFi is great though.
JP
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:59 AM

Regardless of the EDGE speeds, my results blow away those I experienced on my BlackBerry with GPRS. 3G, blah, blah, blah. This is a huge improvement from my perspective.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 01:21 AM

Well, I'd heard RUMORS that AT&T's 3G network wasn't quite up to the task of handling all the iPhones coming online in all the states. Are there that many phones that support 3G now? Maybe there would be even more network outages. Your dual network phone sounds reasonable enough if the chip can fit inside the iPhone. It's just that I don't think it's as easy as snapping your fingers and it's done. Maybe there needed to be an ample supply of chips and such. I sure don't have all the answers, but Apple must know what it's doing and I believe AT&T is the slacker. A nationwide network is a pretty big project to tackle in a short time. I'm not making excuses, but it's easier to sit back and ask for perfection than to achieve it. So many people think it's easy to make such a large project come together within six months or so (I'm talking about the prototype testing). Give Apple and AT&T at least six more months to work out the kinks.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 02:12 AM

HOLY CRAP! IF I DON'T HEAR SOMETHING FROM APPLE ABOUT THE MAC I WILL SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!
ME WANT MAC NEWS!!!!!!!!
ok, I feel better letting that out. Anyway. . .
I don't own an iPhone, but I would assume that the article is correct in that the average user might not need a faster network (for now). I can see the iPhone being a great device for casual web surfing, but for power surfing a computer would seem better. I'm a grad student. I don't think I would ever do any deep database searches online with something as small as the iPhone. However, it wouldn't hurt to offer the faster networks.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 02:46 AM

For the iPhone owners I know, including myself, The Edge network is plenty fast. I'm not sure where you are getting all these complaints? At home, Wi-Fi screams, and on the road, pages take a bit longer but this is not meant to be a replacement for your laptop. I use it several times a day to look up a few pages of info and locate or telephone a company or restaurant. It is an incredibly useful multitasking tool that is for the most part a joy to use.
Did you see Cnet TV's speed test vs. the Apple commercials. Even they were impressed how it matched up to the adverts...
http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-28172.html?k="iphone"&tag=cnetfd.vid
IMHO - The people looking to the next gen are the ones holding out on the iPhone . From what I hear from others who have it already, we generally are in agreement - it ROCKS.
PS - NO problems with two iPhone activations here. Both completed in 20 minutes sitting at home - NOT stuck in a cell store.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 06:31 AM

Some of the iPhone's capabilities would make a very fine PDA, if they were developed in that direction.
I'd be very glad to get an Apple PDA to replace my 2nd generation Newton... (just kidding: I own a Newton, purchased as a collector's item, but my PDA-in-charge is [still] a venerable Palm III /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif).
If it had no cellular phone inside, I'd be even happier, otherwise I could settle for an unlocked phone, with a plain pay-per-call SIM chosen by myself, and the ability to keep the cellular completely off while using the PDA.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 07:32 AM

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HOLY CRAP! IF I DON'T HEAR SOMETHING FROM APPLE ABOUT THE MAC I WILL SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!
ME WANT MAC NEWS!!!!!!!!


I hear ya, man.
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