[MW Forums]

iPhone security has been a hot topic among researchers and analysts since well before the device was even available to the public in June. While some have been ringing the warning bell that the iPhone is not suitable for the enterprise, one analyst says those concerns have been overblown. more

[fds]

Fire this guy immediately, he's clearly not fit for being an analyst. Where's the prerequisite incompetence, lies and sensationalism?

[lkrupp]

Everything about Apple, good or bad, is overblown. This is a company that shakes things up. No matter what happens to the iPhone the cellphone industry will never be the same, just as the computer industry was never the same after the Apple II and then the Macintosh, and the music industry hasn't been the same after the iPod. Lord have mercy on the next industry Apple sets its sights on.
In 1982, when I decided to buy the Apple II+ as my first computer (I can't believe I even considered the TRS-80 but I did) I knew instinctively that this company was different, WAY different. It's been a wild 25 years and I'm proud to be an Apple fanboy, zealot, mactard, or what ever derogatory term the basher crowd can lay on me. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[montgomery_burns]

Why do Mac users bother to pay attention to criticisms about Apple products in the enterprise? If what some Mac users are saying is true, then Apple is just a consumer company that makes things for artists and musicians.
http://weblog.infowo.../2007/07/iphone[/u]fool_me.html
Here is what one apparent Mac user wrote on that page:
"Enterprise customers? If you think Apple is going after the enterprise market, you haven't been paying attention. They could care less about enterprise sales. The target audience is exactly the same audience as the iPod was targeted to. There are millions and millions and millions of such people. Apple doesn't need "enterprise customers"."
We can't have it both ways. You can't dismiss enterprises by saying that Apple is a consumer company with no interest in enterprise, and then get upset when enterprise customers complain about Apple not supporting them enough.

[lwdesign]

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Fire this guy immediately, he's clearly not fit for being an analyst. Where's the prerequisite incompetence, lies and sensationalism?

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Yes, what a refreshing viewpoint. Here's an analyst who seems to be analytically looking at the situation and not simply acting as shill for some vested interest of some kind or other (unless he's working clandestinely for Apple to forward their nefarious purpose to take over the world via the iPod).

[fahlman]

Yet they recommend letting Windows near their networks!

[lwdesign]

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We can't have it both ways. You can't say that Apple is a consumer company with no interest in enterprise, and then get upset when enterprise users criticize Apple for not supporting them enough.

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Who said Apple isn't interested in enterprise? Has Apple said this? I guess the Xserve, Xserve RAID and Xsan are just for really fanatical home users.
Here's a quote from the Xsan page on Apple's site:
"Expand your network horizons with Xsan, an enterprise-class storage area network (SAN) solution thats surprisingly affordable. Xsan lets multiple computers concurrently access terabytes even petabytes of storage on Xserve RAID over high-speed Fibre Channel. Order Xsan today for $999 per node."

[Pascal007]

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Who said Apple isn't interested in enterprise? Has Apple said this? I guess the Xserve, Xserve RAID and Xsan are just for really fanatical home users.
Here's a quote from the Xsan page on Apple's site:
"Expand your network horizons with Xsan, an enterprise-class storage area network (SAN) solution thats surprisingly affordable. Xsan lets multiple computers concurrently access terabytes even petabytes of storage on Xserve RAID over high-speed Fibre Channel. Order Xsan today for $999 per node."

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Hey ! Thanks for the tip ! Exactly what I needed to store my pr0n ! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[ckasper]

I like how you use one source for your info. That guy uses a lot of "I feel" and "I think" statements. How about "I know" or "I have found with diligent research..." Maybe he could write a book and call it "Wishing my way to network security"
I'm not saying he is wrong I'm just saying that it seems that he hasn't actually done any research on the matter.

[ckasper]

Apple is very interested in the Enterprise. Unfortunately, Apple HATES the enterprise. Ask anyone who is actually in the enterprise. They will tell you.
The problem is that Apple has always wanted their users to change the way they do things to the way that Apple CURRENTLY wants them to do things. The enterprise, on the other hand, foolishly wants the equipment vendor to make things that do it THEIR way.
I guess it's a simple matter of retraining all of the corporations out there.

[Lanier]

Well, Apple's own enterprise offerings don't fit with what you're saying. http://www.apple.com/enterprise/
I worked for Apple's, Inc. in there enterprise environment for many years (until recently) and it's top-notch and many many large corporations could learn many-a-thing from Apple.
Just think about the fact that Apple itself is a large company with a large IT department and has a large global enterprise environment. And no, Apple's data centers do not run on "flower power".
I've found that in most IT depts, 95% of their employees do not know a whole lot about technology beyond what they do day in and day out nor are they interested in learning much more. That's the main reason they tend to HATE Apple. They think it's something totally different when in fact it's very much the same in all the ways that are important to enterprise environments.