[alexjohnson]

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Apple Keyboard is 0.33 inches thin

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Please. Love you guys, you do a great job, but can you draw some distinction between marketing spin, and plain English? We measure thickness with the word "thick". If we want to show that this is an unusually small number, may I suggest the word "just", so "Apple Keyboard is just 0.33 inches thick..."
Thanks.

[DogHouseDub]

The black border around the screen improves the perceived contrast, sharpness and brightness of the display. At least that's why they use black borders around theater screens. I assume the same holds true here.

[robco]

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I'm officially dubbing this iMac, the "overdone eyeliner model"

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In loving memory of Tammy Faye.
I think it makes it look like the iMac got punched in the face.

[davebarnes]

I am looking forward to the Speedmark scores.
I want to know if the 2.8 GHz is worth the $250.

[Jarmo]

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I was just trying to get more updated information on the cards posted because it looks like the prior article was tested with the original drivers and those were terrible. ATI introduced new drivers that made the cards go from lemons to real performers in the low to midrange cost cards.

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It seems your article referred to 2600XT which, while still low midrange $100 card, seems to be about 50% faster than the 2600Pro in the top range iMac. I still wouldn't be overjoyed with 2600XT either, but at least it wouldn't be quite as hopeless as this. Particularly frustrating, as if the previous upgrade cycle is any indication, this card'll is what it's going to be for the next couple of years.
This is basically adressing all gamers (not high end gamers, they're not listening anyway) and saying "go away, you're uncool, we don't want you here."
Oh, and if someone suggests getting a MacPro, he's just being insane in the brain.

[montgomery_burns]

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Although Jobs did say something about one screw and you can add your own Ram. Since I never did a ram upgrade in the old form factor, I don't know if it's easier or not.
I'm guessing everything else would be a nightmare to do.

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I wouldn't consider memory upgrades as service. By service, I was referring to the work done by the technicians who actually have to support these products. Macs don't fix themselves. Regardless of Steve and his fetish for thin all in one computers, somebody still has to take them apart to work on them. And the harder they are for technicians to service, multiplied by the number of computers that technicians have to work on every day, the longer the customer has to wait for repairs. Unfortunately, customers rarely think about the work that technicians have to do. They just care about thin, pretty looking computers. But when their shiny looking computer has to spend a long time in the repair shop, then the customer starts wondering what's taking so long.

[hautster]

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Although Jobs did say something about one screw and you can add your own Ram. Since I never did a ram upgrade in the old form factor, I don't know if it's easier or not.
I'm guessing everything else would be a nightmare to do.

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I wouldn't consider memory upgrades as service. By service, I was referring to the work done by the technicians who actually have to support these products. Macs don't fix themselves. Regardless of Steve and his fetish for thin all in one computers, somebody still has to take them apart to work on them. And the harder they are for technicians to service, multiplied by the number of computers that technicians have to work on every day, the longer the customer has to wait for repairs.

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Yea, you're right. Sorry about that. I do agree with you though, these are probably a total pain to work on. That's why, when I get one, it will come with Applecare. Sigh I'm still waiting for an Apple store in Switzerland. (although we have some great resellers and authorized repair centers)

[pixelcruncher]

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The pros have told us it looks much more like a pro product.

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Can't agree with Steve there, that glossy finish is going to mess with contrast and chroma perception for anyone working in print or video. Reflections can be a nightmare when you're trying to do pixel surgery on an image. It's a great iMac I'm sure, but this doesn't look like a pro product, more like a sexy product.
So, anyone taking bets on how long before that flat keyboard transforms into a multi-touch virtual keyboard? Looks like they're trying to ween us off the real thing!

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
Very nice! Up to 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme. 965 chipset ( 800MHz bus + up to 4GB of RAM ). New HD centered GPUs. -- Those griping about gaming again, keep your pants on! The looks are fantastic! They remind me of the latest revision Westinghouse TVs. The silver / black look...
"One more thing..." The keyboard is also a great refresh. Aluminum, thin, "chicklet" keys, and....USB 2.0!

[shenry]

Now with a glass screen perhaps leopard could bring "multi-touch" to the iMac. It would be very cool to page through the new finder cover-flow view swiping your fingers or zoom in/out with the pinch.

[jstephe]

1 more thing glossy displays no choice? I hate reflections and life is full of them.
I would like to see what the sales ratio was for MBP were you have a choice in screen types.

[mjg]

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The new iMacs are the same depth as the old models, though slightly taller and wider. The new 20-inch iMac, for example, sports dimensions of 19.1-by-18.5-by-7.4 inches, compared to 19.4-by-18.6-by-7.4 inches for the iMac it replaces. Weighing in at 20 pounds, it is two pounds lighter, however, than its predecessor. Similarly, the 24-inch model is now 22.4-by-20.5-by-8.1 inches and 25.4 pounds, compared to 22.6-by-20.6-8.1 inches and 24.7 pounds.

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The article says the new iMacs are taller and wider than the old iMacs, but then lists larger dimensions for the old iMacs than the new.

[AtomicPunk]

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No money from me, Apple, until you give me a half-tower MacPro.

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I sort of agree.
Right now, I am a bit disappointed. See, I thought that by holding the Apple Event for the Mac, this meant I would see a refreshed Mac Pro line as well as all this other cool stuff. I don't necessarily desire a half-tower Mac Pro. But I do desire a choice in low to medium end in a 8-Core Mac Pro. The Processors are out there, they start as 2.33GHz Quad cores and are supported by the same MotherBoard. Sure, I could buy a low line Quad Core Mac Pro, then later upgrade the processors myself. But, I wanted to avoid all that. For all that I want to put into the machine, including a 20" Cinema Display, I can't buy the 8-Core 3Ghz model.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[JEB]

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Although Jobs did say something about one screw and you can add your own Ram. Since I never did a ram upgrade in the old form factor, I don't know if it's easier or not.

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Yah, iMac G5 has 3 screws . . . whew. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif