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First Look: iPhoto '08

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 09:30 PM

The latest version of iPhoto introduces some improved image-editing tools. But in his preliminary look at the software, Rick LePage finds that the bulk of the changes are aimed at helping you better organize and share your photos. more
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:01 AM

The new "event" organization thing sounds very promising. I think Apple made the right decision by focusing on the organizational function of iPhoto. It already does the basic photo editing (crop, contrast/brightness, etc) for the most users, and anybody who wants more editing power most likely will not be satisfied by anything iPhoto would offer without becoming a bloatware.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:21 AM

For an unreconstructed web dunce like me, being able to create Web Gallery and the albums therein is really impressive. So are the display options available to visitors.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:57 AM

iPhoto 08 represents a nice upgrade (actually, the only one i found in the new iLife); the problems begin when you try to use the contents of the iPhoto library with other applications. It's inaccessible and a click of the launches the app; it doesn't open the folder. The Automator app Iphoto Browser solves the problem with almost all the applications. but it doesn't work with Photoshop, Painter and InDesign (if i have to put an image into a shape)...
well, Control-click, check "show the contents", duplicate the Originals folder and put it somewhere else, so the images can be accessible again...i got a nice result: three duplicated Originals folder spread on the "territory" (some external HD)...32 and something GB...what a waste of space!
early in the morning i've found the final solution: Bridge...and i won't import a single pic in iPhoto anymore ( i've reinstalled version 06, actually)...it's a saddening decision and i'll miss its awesome full screen mode (on my 30" cinema display it's really magic)...
Renato
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 05:33 AM

We use iWeb for our family website. The new iPhoto Galleries feature is nice enough that we moved our website to a .Mac personal domain. I do wish that it had better integration with iWeb, such as the ability to have an iWeb theme applied to it or even a custom title.
One note about Galleries, it can take a loooooong time to upload them. I have only been able to upload one Gallery at a time without getting errors from iPhoto. We have a lot of albums (63) to turn into Galleries and I've had iPhoto cranking away on them since Thursday.
-Sean
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:35 AM

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One note about Galleries, it can take a loooooong time to upload them.


One thing to keep in mind is that for many of us, our upload and download speeds are vastly different. According to the test I just took at http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ I can download about 10 times faster than I can upload.
So, if you are going to do an upload, be prepared to go get a cup of coffee, walk the dog, or spend more time with yoru family.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 07:28 AM

I would have liked to use iPhoto 7 but cannot. iPhoto 7 fails to import images from Sony CyberShot DCS-W80, and takes down Finder with it. iPhoto 6 has no problems with the camera.
I cannot even copy the images from the memory card in Finder with iPhoto 7 installed.
For me the whole iLife 08 is useless, iWeb crashes on upload, iPhoto crashes with one of my cameras, iMovie 7 doesn't even install on my 1,5 years old Powerbook G4 1.67/17". Waste of 99 euros of hard earned cash.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 08:54 AM

Does this version support non-destructive editing? The issue I've had with previous versions is that as soon as you apply settings to a RAW photo, the edited photo is encoded as a JPEG. In order to properly tweak the settings afterward, the photo must be reverted to its original state first, losing all the settings that had already been applied.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 09:04 AM

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the problems begin when you try to use the contents of the iPhoto library with other applications


This is actually a welcome change to me. Ex-Windows users seem to want to create a million folders to house their images instead of using iPhoto's organization features. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to explain to other people - most of them switchers - to not muck about with the files and folders in the iPhoto library.
If you need to use Photoshop on an image, you can set an external editor in iPhoto's preferences. Or you can drag the images you need to edit out of iPhoto to the desktop (or any other folder) which copies the files. You can then work on and import the copy back to iPhoto when you're done.
Or, of course, if creating the folders yourself works for you, then by all means use Bridge and ditch iPhoto. But for me, the fact that I can rather intuitively sort my images using keywords, events, and albums works a lot better than manually manipulating folders and filenames.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:05 AM

i LIKE film rolls.
do you mean to tell me that capability isnt there in iPhoto 08? i want that feature.
when i saw the "events" announcement i thought, isnt this just a glorified flim roll?
looks like steve and the iphoto developers have been borrowing lingo from the GTD cult...
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:35 AM

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i LIKE film rolls.
do you mean to tell me that capability isnt there in iPhoto 08? i want that feature.
when i saw the "events" announcement i thought, isnt this just a glorified flim roll?
looks like steve and the iphoto developers have been borrowing lingo from the GTD cult...


Events are not like film rolls. Film rolls deal with when the photos were imported into iPhoto. Events deal with when the picture was taken. If you have a large memory card in your camera, it may contain a few weeks and several "events" worth of photos - why would you want to group them together?
The only part of film rolls I really used is "last film roll." And the new iPhoto still has "Last Import" so I'm happy.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:37 AM

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I would have liked to use iPhoto 7 but cannot. iPhoto 7 fails to import images from Sony CyberShot DCS-W80, and takes down Finder with it. iPhoto 6 has no problems with the camera.
I cannot even copy the images from the memory card in Finder with iPhoto 7 installed.


I suggest using a card reader instead of trying to connect directly to the camera. Not only are card readers usually much faster, you never get driver issues like the one you are having.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:48 AM

One thing the article doesn't really make clear is that Events can be split or combined pretty easily after the photos are imported.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:53 AM

you can always separate a group from within one filmroll by hitting "create new film roll"... much LIKE the splitting of one event to another event....
film rolls however are not limited to certain time costraints when u are dividing. they are fully manual.
so, does iphoto 08 REALLY not have the film roll capability? i may not get life 08 if that is true (cant believe im actually thinking that...)
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