[Macworld.com]

After installing iPhone Update 1.1.1, Dan Moren discovers his phone is less useful than it was before. And he's not happy. [more]

[musicpenguy]

I am furious at apple for doing this to us. Basically all they did was heavily password protect the OS so nothing can get in without spending a good amount of time trying to find the right passwords. These apps made my iPhone (which I'm not using as a phone) to a useful mobile computer and now since the update it has been reduced to an iPod with speakers and a mic (that I used to be able to use), with some nice applications but nothing like it used to be full of applications that gave my MB a run for its money on usefulness!
Please apple give us native 3rd party app support this is why the original mac was able to succeed!

[kagharaht]

Unless Apple can provide all these requested features that most SmarPhones have, I'm pretty sure I will switch back to a BB or something similar when my contract expires with AT&T. I like the iPhone, its pretty and all, UI is awesome but for any kind of productive use, work or personal its really crappy at it.

[chewygoat]

And don't leave out the iPod touch. Some of us actually love these things (and can't afford an iPhone monthly plan and/or needed more space and/or wanted a thinner device.) /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Mine's flawless, but I want to be able to run 3rd party apps on it, and I'd rather Apple officially supported it. Of course there's also the issue with the lack of a Mail app, Notes app and the non-editing calendar, all of which I think are rather bizarre shortcomings, and if Apple insists on these shortcomings then I guess we'll never see 3rd party support. I still love the thing tremendously and it is indeed the best iPod ever (next to the iPhone, of course), but it can be even more than it is now. Please Apple, support 3rd party software development for the iPhone and iPod touch. If they allowed and supported it, Apple would dominate the cellphone business and even more greatly dominate the MP3 player business.

[Chris Breen]

Before the "shut up whiners" comments begin, let me dip my oar in here:
I'm also a big fan of third-party apps. I understood that given how tightly the iPod touch is locked down, Apple was likely to do something similar to the iPhone. For that reason I didn't "upgrade" my phone to 1.1.1. and I'm glad I didn't. Anyone who had either unlocked their phone or wished to continue using third-party apps should have thought twice before applying the update and I fault them for being over-eager. (Naturally I don't put Dan Moren and Jon Seff in this group as their phones had to take one for the team to see what happens.)
But what is irksome about this kind of thing is that it's completely opposed to the Mac Way. One of the beauties of the Mac is that I can make it mine by deciding how it's going to look, what applications I'm going to put on it, and where I'm going to organize the stuff on it. I really feel like my Mac is mine and I feel completely discombobulated when I use someone else's Mac because they've likewise configured theirs to their liking.
The iPhone with third-party apps feels like a Mac in this respect. I can apply the themes I like with Summerboard. If the apps Apple provides don't do what I need, third-parties are there to fill in the gaps. And those third-parties update their stuff on an almost daily basis. Other than locking down the iPhone what has Apple done to improve it other than adding the Wi-Fi Store (which I love, but will stay on my iPod touch only)?
Apple allows third-party apps on my Mac without complaining that they might introduce problems, why can't the same standard apply to my iPhone?

[NewGuyontheMac]

The whole article kind of loses it's punch when you take into account the fact that the writer willingly applied an update they knew would more than likely disable this functionality. I think it may have been more valid to state that "I'm not going to upgrade and here's the reason why" than "I upgraded and now I'm sad". Because, with ONE of those statements, you'd at LEAST still have a happy writer /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif As Chris Breen stated above,

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For that reason I didn't "upgrade" my phone to 1.1.1. and I'm glad I didn't.

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Hear Hear! (Although I do disagree with iPhone=Mac)
Anyone who REALLY found a great degree of validity in the 3rd party community just wouldn't upgrade knowing or even suspecting that connection to this community would be removed. I would imagine there are still a couple hundred iPhones that aren't upgraded and likely won't be upgraded until some other event forces them to be (updates to iTunes or maybe even Leopard).

[Dan Moren]

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The whole article kind of loses it's punch when you take into account the fact that the writer willingly applied an update they knew would more than likely disable this functionality. I think it may have been more valid to state that "I'm not going to upgrade and here's the reason why" than "I upgraded and now I'm sad". Because, with ONE of those statements, you'd at LEAST still have a happy writer /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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As Chris pointed out, I didn't really have the luxury of not upgrading. I would have liked to keep my functionality, but as I'm on the iPhone beat for Macworld, I also have a responsibility to keep up-to-date to keep all of our readers informed (yes, I sacrificed my third-party apps so that you can keep yours /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif). But more to the point, I also agree with Chris when he says that this doesn't seem like the Mac way. Why is Apple making us choose? I'm going to guess that there was nothing in the software update that required them to lock out third-party apps. Why not just leave the firmware the way it was and add the new features?
That's what bothers me. And makes me a sad panda.

[scfischer]

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The whole article kind of loses it's punch when you take into account the fact that the writer willingly applied an update they knew would more than likely disable this functionality. I think it may have been more valid to state that "I'm not going to upgrade and here's the reason why" than "I upgraded and now I'm sad".

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Did you not read the following statement in Chris's comment?

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Anyone who had either unlocked their phone or wished to continue using third-party apps should have thought twice before applying the update and I fault them for being over-eager. (Naturally I don't put Dan Moren and Jon Seff in this group as their phones had to take one for the team to see what happens.)

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This article was witten for Macworld. As they are a publication that covers all things Apple, they had to have some of their iPhones apply the patch to accurately report what happened. Unfortunately Dan was one of those that had to take one for the team, as it were, as Chris stated in his comment. And I don't think Chris had to worry about drawing the short end of the stick where that was concerned (note the title Senior Editor in his signature).

[Chris Breen]

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And I don't think Chris had to worry about drawing the short end of the stick where that was concerned (note the title Senior Editor in his signature).

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Actually, the funny thing about that is that when the update came out, Rob Griffiths, Dan Frakes, Jason Snell, and I were all in a meeting (a rare one when we were all there in physical form). We heard about the upgrade and looked at each other.
"So, who's going to upgrade?"
No takers.
Jason, who's the Big Cheese, may have sighed when he said "Oh, I'll do it."
So I think that pretty well dispels the notion that our relative positions in the masthead had anything to do with it.
Dan M is in our fearless leader at iPhone Central and so it was his bullet to take, much as Frakes and I take bullets when it's an issue of iPods.

[JaxbNimbel]

Makes me wonder what WOZ thinks of the new and improved 2nd coming of Corporate Suit Steve Jobs.
I bet WOZ's iPhone got bricked too!
Only he didn't have to pay $599 for it. :-)

[NewGuyontheMac]

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Did you not read the following statement in Chris's comment?

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I see that Chris hasn't edited his post but I could have SWORN I copied my post from the last sentence in that paragraph (that ended with "glad I didn't").
I understand the need to keep updated (even when it may be personally inconvenient) for the editorial value. The article read more like "I updated my iPhone even though I felt I shouldn't" than "I had to take one for the team, and boy do I wish I didn't have to!" The former probably makes for a more entertaining read (and I'm no professional writer, so who am I to say different!), but with the acres and acres of "APPLE HAS WRONGED ME PERSONALLY" stories out there, this one seemed to sit in with the rest. Happy to know that it doesn't and sorry about your loss, Dan /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[montana2ny]

Go to Apple's iPhone feedback page http://www.apple.com...ack/iphone.html and let them know how you feel.
Personally, I don't so much mind the AT&T lock-up so much as I mind the 3rd party apps lock out. I'm not buying an iPhone until Apple opens the doors for 3rd party developers.

[probert]

I have to disagree with "this is not the mac way" thought. This seems to be the mac way since at least the intro of OSX.
In order to run it on upgraded 9600s etc you had to install the xpostfacto patch. There are many other examples of this sort of thing and, no doubt, more experienced users could come up with a long list.
This "control" issue is present in their designs too: Why sealed battery compartments. Why no memory card slots? Look at the modularity of the laptops as compared to - say - a thinkpad or even the pismo.
Why the surprise?