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Regarding the new keyboard. It's gorgeous and the best k/b I have ever used. I'm not the world's best typist, but I find my typing is so much better than the older ones.
I haven't got an iPhone yet (Canada is sooooo slow) but I will get one. I do not understand the attitude that people have. They made an agreement with Apple and At&T but believe it is their unalienable right to mess with the guts of the thing and then get all twisted when Apple creates an update which bricks the iPhone. Where is the responsiblity of people? If you entered an agreement, stay with it. If you willingly violate that agreement, live with it. Stop whining. Regarding all the cell phones available and the different carriers and their options and plans and exclusive phones per carrier, why is there no fuss made of that? Apple and AT&T made an agreement and that's the carrier Apple wants. If you don't like AT&T, get another phone from another carrier.

[d00d]

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substituting an unnecessarily complex Spotlight for a quite useful Sherlock

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You do of course realize that Sherlock was dropped as a search utility long before Spotlight appeared on the scene.

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I believe more of what some might consider "arrogant" actions have taken place recently than in the past several years.

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Not sure, but maybe someone will write an article on this. I don't think I remember a year where Apple hasn't shown on 4-5 occasions that they're arrogant. And it's not just Steve, when he was gone, they were arrogant, too. So, them acting arrogant to me seems more like business as usual and BAU has gotten them to over $160 stock price, so BAU can't be all that bad EXCEPT!!!!.....

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a lot of fresh faces are looking at Apple. These folks (who, I would suggest have a significant amount of influence on Apple's eventual fortunes) may be less tolerant of this attitude

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This is where I'd agree, though I'm uncertain as to whether these new faces would be friendly or foe-ish. I see most of them as being not particularly technically proficient, but they love new gadgets. These people may not KNOW how to create their own ringtones, might not KNOW how to hack their iPhone, may not have a mac and so aren't affected by Leopard, iMovie or the new keyboard. So, they may not find much of a story that they understand enough to write negatively about UNLESS they're in the tech media and then we're back to a smaller number of people than, say, the viewers of TODAY.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. It could be that we've just gotten to the point where the arrogance is beginning to peeve us whereas the wider audience may just think it's charming (like that pompous fella at the party who always seems to get the girl! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif)

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To make all this noise because someone purposely took the "fun hacking route" with the iPhone, even when told that it would tunr it into an expensive paperweight is much ado about nothing
It's one thing to disagree with and argue about what Chris and others are saying here; it's quite another to belittle and dismiss it out of hand. That's not argument; it's just attitude and it discredits rather than supports your point of view. Disrespect will buy you nothing - but disrespect.

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What you quote is just the conclusion AFTER I presented my arguments. You're clever enough to know that and to misquote me by cuttting my post. Nice try though.

[whitedog]

What you quote is just the conclusion AFTER I presented my arguments. You're clever enough to know that and to misquote me by cuttting my post. Nice try though.
"To make all this noise... is much ado about nothing," is about as dismissive as you can get. Quoting more of your argument would have added little substance to your conclusion. You're telling the people who are upset over the bricking issue that they're complaining about nothing. That's rather more than disagreeing with them. I'm not sympathetic with those who bricked their iPhones, either, but I don't need to belittle them in order to make the point.
Yes, they are ultimately responsible for what happened to their phones. But that's not the same thing as saying they expected better from Apple and are disappointed over how Apple handled the matter. Right or wrong they have as much right to their feelings and opinions as you do. When it comes to doing dumb things we all live in glass houses. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

[wuming]

Mr. Breen's opinion piece boils down to:
1. Apple bricked its customers' iPhone on purpose (problem is he cannot prove this, it's only a supposition).
2. Some of Apple's latest products suck (well, that's his taste, not an universal rule).
Your perspectivism won't help in this case.

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1. Apple bricked its customers' iPhone on purpose (problem is he cannot prove this, it's only a supposition).
2. Some of Apple's latest products suck (well, that's his taste, not an universal rule).

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Did someone send you the Cliff Notes for the story? If that's all you got out of it, you didn't read very carefully or you simply didn't want to hear what it had to say.

[Schmadrian]

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here...and excuse me for being a little indulgent...
But to the posters who clearly don't agree with Mr Breen's take on things: can they imagine issues which would tend to have them in agreement? I know this puts the onus on them to come up with 'evidence' (however hypothetical), but surely there is a point where Apple's behaviour becomes questionable? Even to them?
Just curious...

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Did someone send you the Cliff Notes for the story? If that's all you got out of it, you didn't read very carefully or you simply didn't want to hear what it had to say.

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So your definition of a good read must be the one where the reader has to agree with your premises and your conclusions, I guess.
I didn't get the Cliff notes and, just in case, read your piece again a few minutes ago.
My understanding is:
1. You had a really awful family get together.
2. You were feeling uneasy with Apple (who knows why...)
3. Bricking the iPhone is their fault and they are BAD for that.
4. Their latest offerings are half-assed products or just plain inexcusable (ringtones for instance)
THEREFORE
Apple is becoming ARROGANT AGAIN (Whatever that means...)
I'm sorry, you are free to believe whatever you wish, to voice those beliefs, but I do not need to subscribe to those views. Sorry. Many folks on that thread have pointed numerous arguments and differing taste opinions regarding those products you found were lame and the marketing moves of the company. I agree with them.
Apple arrogant? You know what? I started using their products around the same time another magazine was publishing articles asking for people to Pray for them. Moving from Windows to the Mac always brings the same kind of questions from the ones who know you: Why did you move? And the answer was and continues to be: because Macs are better personal computers than Windows machines. The reaction: Oh! How arrogant those Mac users. 12 years later I couldn't care less if they are arrogant, if I'm viewed as arrogant by my coworkers, friends, etc.
Apple will fail or succeed not for some emotional diatribe about a company's supposed arrogance. They will succeed if they continue to make great products and have a business model that makes sense. Their growing popularity, market cap, visibility, etc., tell me they are on that successful path and that they know more about this business than you, me and the entire thread readers combined.

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surely there is a point where Apple's behaviour becomes questionable? Even to them?

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I can agree on Apple changes and Apple developments but questionable, no.
The recessed jack was not designed for the look. It was designed to capture some the accessories market. Have you seen the shelf space of iPod spawn? Apple arrogant? Hardly. Apple the new Microsoft? Hardly. Apple is the new Sony. They want brand loyalty with Apple accessory purchases.
The Apple wired keyboard has a non-standard bump in the middle of the USB plug which locks me to an Apple accessory. The chip enabled component cables and changes in docking say Buy Apple! The change in video out and disk mode were for partners in on the Buy Apple! plan. The change to Intel was to force a new buying wave of hardware. They figured that out with the change to OSX software.
The new iMovie was not created for plodding craftsman video types. Apple wanted to capture the young, temporary, instant show-and-tell types like me who YouTube and Web broadcast things like my beet farming of all things. Do all you geekish, heavily invested video types imagine we are using Mac Pros or tricked out MacBook Pros? The MacBook and iPod are for us instant gratification types. Check out the numbers.
If Apple didn't block unlimited ringtone use, people like me would stream tunes all over the internet. The growth of iTunes says Buy Apple!
If all iPhone purchasers had used Apple third party apps and Apple unlocking programs with a Buy Apple! fee, there wouldn't be a problem. Apple quickly saw that some iPhone buyers couldn't be trusted, had no loyalty, turned to fast moving non-Apple suppliers.
MacWorld, for whatever reason, published an unlocking guide, from an untrusted, untested source which produced (Apple) unwanted, (user) unexpected results. Talk about a conflict of values among roots and suits in MacWorld. I think editors have a new job and that is to protect readers. Forget 1984, the Beatles, shiny white, sarcasm. Build community.
When you decide how much money you would be willing to pay to Apple for iPhone developments, you'll get them. Who's arrogant? It is arrogant to think owners can use Apple products without paying an Apple fee for enhancements with the new non-computer Apple company.
I agree with all the observations but not with the motive. Apple loves you. Loves you like a brother-in-law who wants nothing but your money. Buy Apple!

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Apple doesn't offer a single accessory compatible with the iPhone's recessed headphone jack, so I don't see how this design decision was made to help Apple capture part of the accessory market. If anything, it's given third-party vendors additional opportunities to sell their own accessories.

[whitedog]

1. You had a really awful family get together.
2. You were feeling uneasy with Apple (who knows why...)
3. Bricking the iPhone is their fault and they are BAD for that.
4. Their latest offerings are half-assed products or just plain inexcusable (ringtones for instance)
Why is it the fanboys get so belligerent when anyone dares to criticize Apple - for anything? Why do they take these things so personally, as if someone had kicked their dog or something? They cannot seem to make a counter argument without exaggerating the issues out of all proportion. Maybe it's their way of inflating their own importance, in their own eyes at least. The rest of us are left scratching our heads wondering what, exactly, set them off. Personally, I think they just enjoy being angry and self-righteous.
You don't have to hate Apple in order to find fault with them occasionally. To find everything they do beyond reproach, however, requires the enthusiasm of a zealot. Which is fine; be a zealot if it makes you happy. Just don't expect other people to take you seriously.

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There's a lot of parasitic growth on the Apple tree /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif without giving anything in return to Apple. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Apple wants your loyalty.

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Apple doesn't offer a single accessory compatible with the iPhone's recessed headphone jack, so I don't see how this design decision was made to help Apple capture part of the accessory market. If anything, it's given third-party vendors additional opportunities to sell their own accessories.

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1. You had a really awful family get together.
2. You were feeling uneasy with Apple (who knows why...)
3. Bricking the iPhone is their fault and they are BAD for that.
4. Their latest offerings are half-assed products or just plain inexcusable (ringtones for instance)
Why is it the fanboys get so belligerent when anyone dares to criticize Apple - for anything? Why do they take these things so personally, as if someone had kicked their dog or something? They cannot seem to make a counter argument without exaggerating the issues out of all proportion. Maybe it's their way of inflating their own importance, in their own eyes at least. The rest of us are left scratching our heads wondering what, exactly, set them off. Personally, I think they just enjoy being angry and self-righteous.
You don't have to hate Apple in order to find fault with them occasionally. To find everything they do beyond reproach, however, requires the enthusiasm of a zealot. Which is fine; be a zealot if it makes you happy. Just don't expect other people to take you seriously.

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Yes, calling me a zealot is the answer for my 4 point summary of the article.
You really disappointed me with such a turn, I was expecting more of your sophisticated perspectivism.