[Nyhthawk]

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And I am going to vomit if Apple doesn't give me the ability to assign a single view to all my folders on my hard drive. This is a feature from the 80s that we still don't have. And I can't set up a default view for new folders! Ugh.

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No need to blow chunks. Here's a simple script that will change the view mode of every folder on your hard drive. You can do this now with Tiger. You can set the script for: list view, icon view, column view, (and in Leopard) flow view. Note that it takes a while to complete:
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tell application "Finder"

set the current view of the window of every folder of the entire contents of the startup disk to icon view

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[iPhoneSteve]

There will be no iPhone integration??
That seems like a must to me...

[whitedog]

ILife has never been included with an OS only purchase - except for iTunes and iChat. ILife has almost always come pre-installed on new Macs, though not as part of the OS but as part of an additional software package that generally also includes trial versions of iWork, Office 2004 for Mac and FileMaker Pro.
You will have to pay for more than one copy of iLife '08 and OS X 10.5 if you want to install them on more than one computer - if you are unusually honest. However, Apple has never required product activation either for OS X or for iLife. This could change with Leopard; we won't know until it ships and people start installing it, but it would be a big change for Apple and seems unlikely, given that iLife '08 is still activation free.
This raises the interesting issue of just how many copies of OS X are in use. Microsoft has strict activation requirements that keep track of every legally installed version of their OS. Since Apple has no such system to track OS X, it is probable that there are many more copies being used then can be accounted for through their sales figures alone. Literally an Apples and oranges comparison challenge - or rather Apples and lemons. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Philbert]

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How much Apple is paying its ...

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Right. I get it - Apple has expenses. So why did they only raise the edu price and not the normal retail price? Just seems odd to me.
But honestly, I really wasn't complaining (much) - I won't be suing. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I fully realize Apple is a FOR profit company and they're free to charge anything they want. It's just that I was expecting the normal edu discount they've given ever since OSX was introduced and it turned out to be $46 more - enough to prevent me from pre-ordering today.
I'll still buy Leopard.
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My apologies. ... Perhaps, my retort is also guided by my distaste for any comment that references Apple, Jobs and Greed in the same sentence.

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I actually feel the same way ... and precisely the reason for the comment. No worries - my fault - sometimes my sarcasm is a bit too subtle.

[edmetric]

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Now that's entertaining!
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[whitedog]

Since Apple doesn't require any proof of status for the student versions of their software I guess they figured they were selling too many copies of OS X at the lower price and decided to adjust things a little. But upgrades for the Mac OS have cost $129 at least as far back as OS 7.6, if I recall correctly. Accounting for inflation over the past ten years or so, the retail price has in effect gone down substantially in that time. So I don't squawk about having to pay $129 every few years for a significant OS upgrade into which Apple has always put a great deal of work. Those who don't want the expense of upgrading or the trouble of learning a new feature set can hold back for years if they wish, as many of my friends, in fact, do. Personally, though I intend to keep a bootable version of Tiger around for awhile, I am chaffing at the bit to get my hands on Leopard after at least a year and a half of teasers.
I doubt I'm alone in this. I was unable to pre-order from the Apple web site today because I was repeatedly timed out - apparently their servers are really being hammered. So I fell back on "old" technology and called 1-800-MY-APPLE and ordered by phone. Which is not really any hardship since I already have an Apple account. And there was no wait, either, which really surprised me. They must have staffed up for this release.

[Agnitio]

I really agree with what WhiteDog said. Especially because through my schools official apple store, our discount has not changed, and for some products it has gotten better. I don't know if that's across the board, or because I attend a huge university I have no idea.
But as a student in a university this price increase hasn't hit me.
I just put in my order for a new Macbook - I'm excited

[hillstones]

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A polite warning to all the qualified G4 owners out there-
Get a Core Image qualified graphics card.
Just looking at Leopard and using my own experience with a new GPU and Logic Studio, Apple is really pushing this technology to run the "pretty things" in the OS.
If you don't have a Core Image qualified graphics card I wouldn't even bother looking at Leopard.
http://www.apple.com...ures/coreimage/
I purchased a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro for my G4 MDD
Works great!

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If the graphics card does not support Core Image, the "pretty things" you refer to are not even displayed, so it should not be a problem. Tiger has "pretty things" that are only displayed with a Core Image graphics card, such as the Dashboard widget "splashes" onto the screen. On a Mac without Core Image, the widget simply appears on the screen, without the fancy graphics. I would assume the same will be true with Leopard. Systems without Core Image won't be crippled, they just won't display the fancy graphics.

[hillstones]

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This raises the interesting issue of just how many copies of OS X are in use. Microsoft has strict activation requirements that keep track of every legally installed version of their OS. Since Apple has no such system to track OS X, it is probable that there are many more copies being used then can be accounted for through their sales figures alone. Literally an Apples and oranges comparison challenge - or rather Apples and lemons.

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And look how fast it was for hackers to break the Windows Activation scheme. So how many copies of Windows are actually activated vs. the number of hacked copies bypassing the activation?

[jpp_zoso]

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like the Finder not hanging when a network drive goes MIA

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no doubt. "hanging" being an overly polite term imho. one would think this should have been fixed in a 10.4.x update at some point. maybe in 10.4.11?

[palane]

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Ok so on the 26th, do I go to the Apple Store-- 60 miles away, or D/L it? Also is iLife 08 included, or will I have to pay $99.00 and $258.00 to have Leopard and iLife installed on this iMac, and my MacBook Pro???? [Email]hohome11@.mac[/Email]

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I don't think it will be available as a download. If either of these computers was bought this month, it's a $10 fee for shipping. If not, go with the family pack.
BB

[BigCloits]

Gosh, I sure hope the hassle and expense of a major upgrade will finally fix the serious freezing problem Ive had on three of my Macs this year!

[pcharles]

Might be a sucker for Apple products, but I got mine pre-ordered even though the educational price is not as favorable as it once was.

[Machound]

I preordered the Leopard family pack directly from Apple, selecting my local Apple Store so they get the purchase credit. I want Apple to receive all the proceeds, even though I realize I could have saved $20 at Amazon.com. $40 per OS license is an incredible deal. I greatly appreciate Apple keeping the family pack available for those of us who buy many Macs.
My main reservation about Leopard is installing it on my two G4 machines cuts off my occasional use of Classic unless I create a Tiger boot partition. I wish Apple would have managed to keep Classic alive through one more big cat so we wouldn't have to reboot into Tiger just to run Classic.