[MW Forums]

With the release of Mac OS X Leopard just 24 hours away, one company is bucking the trend of announcing compatibility with the new operating system. Apple owned FileMaker said its products are not compatible with Leopard. more

[t0ny]

This is a disgrace considering the Filemaker is an Apple subsidiary. What the heck have they been doing all this time??? They certainly had access to Leopard builds; theres NO excuse for this except for bad management and laziness.

[DocRoss]

I can think of an excuse. Perhaps because of their close affiliation with Apple, they had access to some low level stuff that they based a ton of code on, but that is now broken with Leopard. They may have to be rewriting a chunk of the app from scratch just to get compatibility.
I guess the laziness would have come in earlier in the process using a low level hack to get around a problem instead of figuring out a clean way to do whatever it was.

[auren]

Whooaaa now, this is not good. I was ready to instantly load up Leopard immediately. I only use one small database application, but it is a critical one running on Filemaker 8. With this little tidbit of information, I'm going to have to wait on all that fun with Leopard.
Wonder how many other (thousands) users will be in the same boat!!!

[aestival]

Ah, Claris, hast thou lost thy eternal dogcow? Moof, indeed.

[t0ny]

That makes sense considering the even version 9 isn't no where near as fast as it should be. Just look at the launch time. Must be a lot of messy code in there. What a shame. All that marketing glitz to cover up messy messy messy. Guess we'll have to still to Tiger a little while longer or migrate our FMPro DB to something a little more 'open'.

[griffman]

For what it's worth, I tested version 8.5 on 10.5, and the few small (basic!) databases I have seem to work just fine. I don't own 9, so I can't test that one.
If you were going to try this, obviously, you'd want to do some thorough testing first, much more than what I just did.
-rob.

[t0ny]

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For what it's worth, I tested version 8.5 on 10.5, and the few small (basic!) databases I have seem to work just fine. I don't own 9, so I can't test that one.
If you were going to try this, obviously, you'd want to do some thorough testing first, much more than what I just did.
-rob.

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FMPro 9 crashes soon after launch the instant you don anything in any DB.

[Tivor]

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I can think of an excuse. Perhaps because of their close affiliation with Apple, they had access to some low level stuff that they based a ton of code on, but that is now broken with Leopard. They may have to be rewriting a chunk of the app from scratch just to get compatibility.

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That would be... quite Microsoft of them. Let's hope that's not the case.
But whatever the reason may be, there is no question this is a serious embarrassment for Filemaker and Apple.

[theKiwi]

I'll be going to our local Apple store on Friday to get a free tee shirt, and when they ask why I didn't buy Leopard while I was there I'll be sure to let them know that my $3000 or so investment in FileMaker Pro 9 in various forms means I can't run Leopard until FileMaker get their act together.
It's an amazing "Catch 8.5-9.0-10.5" situation - can't upgrade to Leopard if you use 8.5 since they've not tested that, and can't use 9.0 with Leopard either.
I wonder if they'll ever certify FileMaker 8.5 and Server 8.0 with Mac OS X 10.5, or whether one will need to move to FileMaker 9 when you move to Leopard and then only after FileMaker release some updates to FileMaker 9.
No Cheers so far!!!!
Roger

[leicaman]

They are so clue-impared. I complained about being a long-time Filemaker user and even though I have paid for every upgrade for years, they don't give me a break in upgrade price compared to someone who didn't upgrade for five or six versions. They simply said they want to encourage everyone to upgrade. But why would upgrading from 8.5 to 9 cost the same as upgrading from 5? I've paid a lot for upgrades in-between! What happened to loyalty to customers who've stuck with them?
Sometimes Apple really doesn't know how to treat customers. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
At this time, I cannot recommend buying Filemaker for any version. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[oaktownman]

Oops.

[mr_josh]

So we're thinking that ancient, cave-dwelling folk such as myself who might be running v6 Pro are okay? Is it possible that my cheap-skatedness has paid off for once?!