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First Look: Bento personal database software

#15 User is offline   TimmyB Icon

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 07:32 AM

I'm still plugging along with AppleWorks 6.2.9 database. I've tried playing around with the database in NeoOffice and there are two things keeping me from making the switch: speed and complexity - NeoOffice takes aprox 30 seconds to launch on my 1Ghz G4 PowerBook which is just too long to wait. In terms of power, its complexity is over my head...!
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:32 AM

I noticed the ASPX extension on the submission page. That means that FileMaker is using Microsoft's .NET Framework, and that means they are using a server version of Microsoft Windows for their web site.
Hm.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:47 AM

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I noticed the ASPX extension on the submission page. That means that FileMaker is using Microsoft's .NET Framework, and that means they are using a server version of Microsoft Windows for their web site.
Hm.


Stranger than fiction...
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:35 AM

Why won't Bento import simpler Filemaker databases? I've got about 20 Filemaker 6.5 databases that have no need for the power of current Filemaker versions. I'd upgrade to Bento in a flash if it'd simply read those databases and created a raw database with fields and data that I could pretty up. But if I have to export in CSV, create a new database from scratch, and import, I might as well move to some other database that also uses SQLite.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:38 AM

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I noticed the ASPX extension on the submission page. That means that FileMaker is using Microsoft's .NET Framework, and that means they are using a server version of Microsoft Windows for their web site.
Hm.


Which is probably why their server isn't emailing the link to the download for many of us. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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#20 User is offline   McNotMac Icon

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 12:59 PM

Bento looks like and OS X version of Tellico.
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#21 User is offline   dhutchison Icon

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:06 PM

"some other database that also uses SQLite."
That's interesting. Our database software, iList Data 3.5, also uses SQLite as a backend:
http://www.lakewoodstudios.com
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David Hutchison
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 02:26 PM

At first blush, Bento looks like Hypercard, but without any obvious mention of something like the scripting language that made Hypercard so cool.
So when MacWorld does its review, I hope it reaches into the 'wayback machine' and does a fairly rigorous comparison to Hypercard, which is still one of the great Mac applications of all time.
dave (who once prototyped an air traffic control training system user interface in Hypercard...)
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:17 PM

So Bento can work with Addressbook and iCal -- what about Mail? I've got 25K of e-mail history that I'd love to get out of Mail and into a database. I've looked at a couple of commercial apps that can do this, and I don't mind the $100 price tag on them, but Bento might be even better.
The perfect outcome for me would be if I could send e-mails to Bento as I read them, removing them from the Mail database. If I wanted to reply, I could do so either from Mail or from the Bento collection.
A link to Addressbook that allowed me to keep notes of conversations and e-mails to/from that contact in Bento would be a godsend. I could finally dump Chronos Notes for all time -- and that would be a happy day indeed.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:19 PM

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I noticed the ASPX extension on the submission page. That means that FileMaker is using Microsoft's .NET Framework, and that means they are using a server version of Microsoft Windows for their web site.
Hm.


They might be using Mono on OS X. Mono Project
I've also tried getting the main database to load using SQLite and it give some error about Incomplete SQL and spits out a bunch of garbage. I think this with Applescript and/or an API would be great.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 05:11 PM

I have been waiting the email for Filemaker with the link. I know others who are waiting. What is up?
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#26 User is offline   DougAdams Icon

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 05:56 PM

Just go to Apple's Downloads page. Bento can be downloaded from there.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:28 PM

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or you could use the gimp for free and only need to purchase iWork and Bento.


I could, but I bought a Mac because I want to use Mac software. If I wanted to use poorly designed Linux software, I would have bought a cheap PC and thrown Linux on it.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:32 PM

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Why won't Bento import simpler Filemaker databases?


Because it isn't FileMaker. Even "simple" Filemaker databases uses FileMaker's UI engine and data engine. Bento is not "FileMaker lite"
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But if I have to export in CSV, create a new database from scratch, and import, I might as well move to some other database that also uses SQLite.


Importing is a one time task. After you've imported your data, you have to use the application on an ongoing basis. That is what you should be evaluating. If importing is your only requirement for a data organization application, then you should use some other database, or pony up for a FileMaker upgrade.
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