[buuuudy]

lightsong said:

Good point...

Got my black MacBook a month ago. Best laptop I've had in 20 years...



I'm thinking that the MacBook Air will become the MacBook Error.

Glad to hear it, as the intro of the MBA has inspired me to run out & pick up a black MacBook TOMORROW :) LIterally :)

[panaguy]

As someone who travels over 50% of my time, this machine has a lot of appeal - the size is very convenient, but the battery life is almost more important if they really can get 5 hours. To get most of the way over the Atlantic is really helpful (inseat power only works 75% of the time if you're lucky).
On another point, the Macbook Pro is a very nice piece of kit, but is simply way, way, way too big to use for anyone who works regularly on aircraft. And as I work when traveling, I don't care for a second about not having a DVD drive to watch films - I have an iPod anyway if I do have any spare time.
My biggest reservation is whether you can really use this as a primary machine, or do I need to reserve this for when I'm on the road and use an iMac at work? Apple neesd to develop a nice sync solution which automatically keeps files on two machines in sync, not just contacts etc.
As to cost, yes, it's not cheap, but if I really cared only about price I would buy an Acer at my local Radio Shack! If I can get something which adds to productivity and gives me more working time while traveling, the extra cost pays for itself in a week.

[Wondercow]

buuuudy said:

>Firstly, please quote me when you respond, because I have no clue to which posting you're referring.

That's why they have the line and link under the post's title that says "In response to ...". Click the link.

buuuudy said:

Secondly, Option+E will get you that accent you;re looking for. "Touche".

Partially right: option-e and 'e' again will get it

buuuudy said:

Thirdly, everything you say and believe is wrong.

>Finally, I wasn't trolling ... If you take the time to read these boards, you'll see that I'm trying to discuss this ... with everyone here, like-minded or otherwise.

I think you're the one who needs to re-read your postings; you are trolling. And it seems that you actually aren't interested in discussion, but in arguing with those with whom you don't agree.

[Bruce8]

"...A notebok this crippled needs a dock. But, then what would be the point? So, you have to add a USB modem, a USB optical drive, a USB card reader, a USB hub and you still have a bigger footprint than a 12" PB.... Sigh."
I second that Sigh.
Very thin and lightweight, but at cost of:
- No Ethernet port (a $29 add on dongle),
- No CD/DVD drive (a $100 add on, and apparently specially designed to work ONLY with MacBook Air),
- No security port (and on a product this pricey and this easy to lift and walk, a major missing),
- No FireWire (no add-on for FireWire either - and with FireWire being measurably faster than USB, and originally pushed by --Apple!-- it is a major missing feature and design flaw.
- Another Glossy Reflective screen device. Yikes, does nobody at Apple use a computer in a normal room that has lights and windows reflecting everything?
- Install software by either having to buy the external CD/DVD ($99) or by requiring a second computer with DVD that you network with to share its drive (install new access software to do that). A scenario which right off the bat limits adoption. So pretty tiny market target.
All so we can have a thinner but wide computer with a smooth external skin, and truly useless 'shininess.'
There is plenty of room for an Ethernet port. Plenty of room for a FireWire or mini-FireWire port. Plenty of room for a second USB. Plenty of room for a security lock plug.
These are things that are mostly standard on all other PCs - even the ultra-portables (look at Sony, etc - yes I know, with those you get Windows -Major Ugghhh- ... But hardware-wise, they have advantages).
For my take, this is a very disappointing device, and an even more disconcerting trend by Apple design and development. I don't know who is in charge of design for MacBook Air, but obviously, they do not live in the real worl of Ethernetworks and FireWire peripherals.

[panthera]

While I can agree that certain aspects of the Macbook Air are somewhat disappointing, it is still a very elegant machine.

I do intend to buy one since it would be the perfect tool for my traveling business needs.

If it runs Office apps and if the battery actually holds up to the 5hrs they report, it will be fantastic to take to meetings, presentations and trips.

I'm thrilled that they went for a large enough size to maintain a full sized keyboard and even gave it some back lighting so that I don't have to fumble around when giving a presentation in a darkened room.

The only real downside I see is the 2Gb of RAM which seems a bit borderline. The lack of a DVD isn't a big deal since as one person pointed out, not all of us watch movies while traveling on business. If I wanted to, I would hit iTunes and skip packing the DVD's.

Is it a desktop replacement, no. Is it a good solution for people seeking a second (very portable) system, of course it is.

Anyone annoyed with the price difference between the HD and SSD should take a look at 64GB SSD on NewEgg or something... very expensive!

I agree that the SSD option will be a tough one to sell. That's quite price hit for only minimal gains. Perhaps after we get some real benchmarks, we can get a better idea for the benefit of SSD.

I know I've been looking at the Sony TZ for awhile now but couldn't get myself to buy another Windows box. I'm now very happy I waited since the Air is way sexier and less expensive.

[veggiedude]

Check out the top ten ultra-portables, all of which have 12.1 inch screens:
http://www.pcworld.c...-1/article.html
The majority are a lot more expensive. A whole lot more.

[robco]

The current MB and MBP have the green LED that lets you know when the iSight is active.

Gotta see it in person, it's tiny. It's hard to believe a laptop could be that small. About the only thing I'd personally wish for would be a docking station.

[warlock7]

If you were familiar with this board layout, then you'd know how all the rest of us know what post we're responding to. Sorry that you're not able to figure out how that works. But at least you can try and play grammar police instead.

I don't much care about accent marks in a message board posting, but thanks for the incomplete explanation of how to get them to show up. So, is this your typical trolly way of dodging the fact that you're a troll?

Wow, what a simple little troll. Yes, your opinion does matter, to you... not so much to the rest of us though.

[park_uk]

Steve Jobs did not say "All the circuit boards are BFR-free and PVC-free." He carefully actually said something to the effect that all APPLE circuit boards in the MacBook Air are BFR-free and PVC-free. So if there are non-APPLE circuit boards in the new MacBook model then they may or may not be BFR and PVC free.

[warlock7]

To make it clear for you, buddy, here's the quote of what I'm responding to.

buuuudy said:

This device is a GRAND victory of form over function, and nothing else. Disk Share (or whatever it's called) is nice, but unnecessary, had they been able to cram an optical drive in there somehow.

Wow, that's only a little bit convoluted. So, you slam them for not including an optical drive and then say that their solution to the lack of the optical drive is unnecessary if they only would've crammed an optical drive in the machine. Wow, your circular lack of logic is making me dizzy.

Apple addressed the lack of functionality in a couple of different ways in order to get the form factor working and you claim that there's no functionality, merely form. Keeps the head spinning. Now I see why you like it under that bridge so much.

[buuuudy]

warlock7 said:

If you were familiar with this board layout, then you'd know how all the rest of us know what post we're responding to. Sorry that you're not able to figure out how that works. But at least you can try and play grammar police instead.

I don't much care about accent marks in a message board posting, but thanks for the incomplete explanation of how to get them to show up. So, is this your typical trolly way of dodging the fact that you're a troll?

Wow, what a simple little troll. Yes, your opinion does matter, to you... not so much to the rest of us though.

There's that "clueless" speak again. Like, wow. Totally.

Thanks for the info, or lack thereof, on how to figure out to which post you're responding, Palladin. +5 wisdom to you.

Like, wow.

When I grow up I wanna be just like you. Wow.Totally.

[AndrewRodney]

jgraham said:

The leds for back lit lap tops aren't cheap.
That's why all Mac Book Pros are not LED lit.
Look at the Adobe color rated NEC monitor. $4,000 for a 21".

Totally different beast. First off, the NEC wide gamut ("103%" of Adobe RGB (1998)) uses three LED's (red, green and blue), and the filters to produce this wide gamut, the cooling system and size are what cost here. The MacBook LED's are a single light source. For high end imaging, nothing all that useful other than lower power consumption.

Oh, that unit is now selling for $1800, not $4K

I also see the new MacBook Air only has a glossy screen. Deal breaker.
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[buuuudy]

[quote name='warlock7']To make it clear for you, buddy, here's the quote of what I'm responding to.

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buuuudy said:

> This device is a GRAND victory of form over function, and nothing else. Disk Share (or whatever it's called) is nice, but unnecessary, had they been able to cram an optical drive in there somehow.
Wow, that's only a little bit convoluted. So, you slam them for not including an optical drive and then say that their solution to the lack of the optical drive is unnecessary if they only would've crammed an optical drive in the machine. Wow, your circular lack of logic is making me dizzy.

Apple addressed the lack of functionality in a couple of different ways in order to get the form factor working and you claim that there's no functionality, merely form. Keeps the head spinning. Now I see why you like it under that bridge so much.

Soooo, my beef about a lack of optical drive is wrong because of my point that, while Disk Share is an interesting idea, it would have not been necessary had they put an optical drive in the MBA?

Ya, I can see how that's confusing. Lemme put it simpler terms for you:

Laptop - Optical Drive + premium price ≠ fullfunction machine

MBA + Portable Optical ≠ Ultra-Portable

Disk Share < Built In Optical Drive

D&D lifestyle + staying up late to respond to online posts without thinking it through = DWEEB

tosses another cookie and a 12-sided die to Warlock

[catstudioth]

I want this one but with DVD drive. I'm a small person, so carrying an iBook that weight 5 pounds is still too heavy for me when I carry it for sometime. So, I think about getting this one but it has to have DVD drive and firewire800 or 3200 + ethernet port with bigger hard drive. So, I might have to wait for MacBook Pro Air, I guess. One more important thing for me is, it should be cheaper ;-)