[hayesk]

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Push mail does exactly what it says, when a message is received by the Exchange server, it is "pushed" out to the client. This means that email is received immediately without the delay inherent to "pull" systems such as those used with POP and IMAP email systems. If Apple has any hope of ever making headway into the enterprise environment, they will have to adopt push mail technology either through the BlackBerry Enterprise Server or Exchange Server methodology.

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Oh please. Nobody needs push technology. I challenge you to provide one realistic example of why push technology is needed over polling the server.

Push technology is to help people pretend they're important. "My day is so busy I need to see email the second it arrives." What BS - you can wait a minute for your email client to poll the server. And if your day is so busy, you have other things to do during that minute.

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iphonewiz said:

It is interesting how Apple worded this announcement. It seems that they are finally going to go after multiple markets. This is very exciting!





-C






iPhone owner on day one!

I keep thinking Apple has to set its sights more seriously on the biz
market, given all the digital gear it consumes. So maybe the iPhone
will be their chosen Trojan horse, .e.g., a campaign that you've got
the phone, now get the computer that works best with it?? Like the one
more and more of your workers use at home......

love to see that....

[L18Penguin]

Hayesk:

A bit presumptuous to make the blanket statement "Nobody needs push technology." I'm a recent convert to Apple products, having recently purchased, an iPhone, and iMac, and an AppleTV device. It was primarily the "Mac Head" attitude of "if Steve didn't include then you don't need it" that had kept me away from Apple products for so long.

But now that i am a convert perhaps I can share with you one good reason for push technology. Contrary to the assertions of some on this board, "push" technology will actually save my battery power. Instead of using battery to check each and every 15/30/60 minute period, or every time I manually check to see if I have e-mail, I'm only using battery for e-mail transfer when I actually have e-mail. I look forward to the possibility of ActiveSync integration in what is arguably the best phone I have ever owned.

Of course your mileage may vary. If you're one of those 200 e-mail an hours super users then all bets are off. But Haysek's challenge was to "provide one realistic example." Done and done.

Cheers everyone,

A happy switcher.

[timewasting]

While I mostly agree with those of you who say "Nobody needs push" I would argue that the lack of push is a killer in the Enterprise space. The actual NEED of the technology and the requirements placed on the IT department are never 100% identical. Telling someone they don't NEED it, and not even providing the option will guarantee that you lose certain customers.

Enterprise customers are by far the group that is most willing to pay for high-end phones/service contracts. Apple is trying to win customers who will spend big bucks on a phone without thinking, not alienate them.

[digidan]

Neat! Hopefully, they don't require everything to be downloaded via iTunes - although this is probably likely - as it would help homebrew software/shareware/freeware in addition to commercial releases.
In any case, they're having an event on a thusday. THURSDAY! Thus, they can't be releasing the SDK - they only release things on Tuesday! ; )
Of course, rules exist to be broken...

[antoniog]

So is it me, or has everyone lost all sense of reality? Whether or not we need Push email not the question; the fact is that the iPhone will never be accepted as a true business device until is supports Push-like connectivity with corporate email servers!!!! See how many fortune 500 company's email and security admins are going to open up IMAP or POP (or for the more technical out there - S-IMAP/POP) to allow iPhone connectivity! Gesh - get real!
Or - we can settle to have it only push with Yahoo! LMAO!!

[tom92103mac]

I want push technology so I can get these comments from MacWorld in real-time. (dripping sarcasm)
Most amusing of all are the Blackberry users who are in their office, in front of a real computer, and still are glued to the tiny handheld screen.
I have seen e-mails arrive more quickly on Blackberries than on OutLook clients. I'm so glad I exited corporate culture, bought some Hawaiian shirts and remodeled my apartment to match the iMac. I'd no sooner have a Blackberry than an alarm clock.
I may be off-topic (sorry). My favorite iPhone feature is the physical toggle to turn the ringer on or off.