[utsumi]

I am an old user of Mac -- since its beginning time.
At that time, WordPerfect was a preferred word processor for Mac.
I could use it up to OS 9.2.2, but not any more, especially for MacBook with Intel and Leopard.
Since I have may WordPerfect files which I still use daily, I am stuck with PowerBookG4 with OS X 10.4.11, and cannot upgrade to MacBook with Leopard.

I would then greatly appreciate it if anyone can kindly indicate me any emulation software of OS 9, which can be used with MacBook/Leopard -- as similar to Virtual PC, which let us use Window software on Mac before.

Thanks in advance,

Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

[Tom_Diola]

What is it you're looking for here?
To use OS9 under 10.4.11 ?
or
To use OS9 under 10.5.2 (Leopard)?
OS9 doesn't work under Leopard

[utsumi]

As said, I want to have a way (or an emulating software) which can let me work with Leopard for WordPerfect (and other applications) under OS 9.2.2.
I know that Leopard and MacBook do not let me work with any application under OS 9.2.2. This is why I am stuck with PowerBook G4 with OS X 10.4.11.
Greatly appreciate any help to solve this dilemma.
Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

[Typhoon14]

OK, you really, really need to move your wordperfect files to a newer format. There are various applications that can import wordperfect files for OS X, and you need to find one.

The only application that can run OS 9 and earlier on Intel Machines is SheepShaver. It's extremely slow, difficult to setup (you need a ROM from an old world mac, for starters), and the disc images you must use with it are prone to corruption, putting your data at risk.

OS 9 is dead. It's time to move on.

[SSGoku]

I'm sorry to say this. OS 9 is DEAD. You have to bite the bullet and face to facts. It's not what you'd like to hear, but it's the truth. You're best option is to go back to your OS 9 Mac and convert all your WordPerfect files to a modern file format that can be used on a MacBook.

If you absolutely need to work with WordPerfect, here are two solutions.
1) Buy a PC and a copy of WordPerfect Office X3.
2) Buy a new Mac, a copy of Win XP/Vista and a copy of WordPerfect X3. In other words, Bootcamp.

[utsumi]

When there was a demo of MacBook at Columbia University, I complained about my problem to Apple people. He then asked me if I am a lawyer. I then asked him why. He said to me that many lawyer still prefer to use WordPerfect.
Since I have many, many important WordPerfect files, it would be too much for me to convert them into, say, Microsoft/WORD. Then, I may need to follow your second suggestion, only in the condition that my WordPerfect file for Mac would be read by WordPerfect X3 on Win XP/Vista. In this case, can I use Parallel to run the WordPerfect X3 on Win XP/Vista, instead of Bootcamp? Can I experiment this scheme with Virtual PC on my PowerBookG4 before purchasing a new MacBook?
Even in this case, I would regret to throw away very good and familiarized software made by Claris Clear Choice and others.
Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

[macnuke]

you may want to read up and perhaps try Sheepsaver

the theory is that you can run an older Classic OS on your shiney new Intel Mac

[Typhoon14]

In the world of computers, things change fast. The formats we're all saving our documents to now may not be viable 10 years down the road, and the programmes we use today may be long dead by then - this is just reality. It is fine to stay with an older programme because it is works well or is "familiar", up to a point. When elaborate workarounds start becoming necessary to allow you to use your ancient software and files on modern computers, it is time to upgrade. If you refuse to upgrade, you will eventually find yourself with large amounts of data that is completely inaccessible, or if you've been storing it all on legacy hardware that dies ? lost forever.

Luckily in your case, Wordperfect is still offered and supported for Windows, however it is long dead and buried on the Mac side. At this point you can basically either commit yourself to doing all your word processing in Windows from now on, or accept that you need to migrate to a different format and programme.

[smax013]

utsumi said:

At that time, WordPerfect was a preferred word processor for Mac.

I have been using Macs for a LONG time (since the late 80s), I frankly don't ever recall WordPerfect being considered a "preferred word processor" for the Mac in general terms. Some small subset of people might have thought that way, but I don't recall it in broad terms.



As to your issue, I will agree with others. If you want to use a new Intel based Mac, then WordPerfect for the Mac is not really a viable option anymore. You will have to accept that and move on. The one potential work around is to get Windoze in either Bootcamp or in either Parallels or Fusion and then get the Windoze version of WordPerfect...and hope that it will be similar enough to what you are used to on the Mac to no be too much of a pain in the rear for you. Frankly, if WordPerfect is your main use, then you might be better off just getting a Windoze PeeCee...getting a Mac just to run Windoze is kind of waste of what is good about a Mac.

[utsumi]

Dear Everybody:

(1) Many, many thanks for your valuable suggestions to my trouble with OS 9 on MacBook.

(2) There seems following three options to solve;

(a) SheepShaver:
This seems requiring high tech skills, which I don?t have, and high risk of loosing data/files.

(I am an old dog so that it is difficult for me to learn new tricks.)

(b) WordPerfect Office X3 under Win XP/Vista:
I need to check if my WordPerfect for Mac files can be opened with WordPerfect Office X3.
This approach does not provide me with the possibilities of using the application software which are ?familiarized? with OS 9.

© Windoze PeeCee:
This seems the best choice for me -- (i) inexpensive at around US$50, (ii) runs with any application software under OS9 (including WordPerfect for Mac), even though it is installed under Win XP/Vista, and can be used with Parallels or Fusion and with Leopard, of course, (iii) does not require much technical expertise.

Dear smax013:
Pls confirm the above. Thanks.

Thank you very much for your help.

Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

[Typhoon14]

{quote}© Windoze PeeCee:
This seems the best choice for me -- inexpensive at around US$50, (ii) runs with any application software under OS9 (including WordPerfect for Mac), even though it is installed under Win XP/Vista, and can be used with Parallels or Fusion and with Leopard, of course, (iii) does not require much technical expertise.{quote}

Wait...what? You will absolutely NOT be able to run Mac OS 9 on a Windows-based PC, nor will you be able to run Parallels, Fusion, or Leopard. The only thing you could run would be Windows and WordPerfect for Windows.

[smax013]

utsumi said:

Dear Everybody:

(1) Many, many thanks for your valuable suggestions to my trouble with OS 9 on MacBook.

(2) There seems following three options to solve;

(a) SheepShaver:
This seems requiring high tech skills, which I don’t have, and high risk of loosing data/files.

(I am an old dog so that it is difficult for me to learn new tricks.)

(b) WordPerfect Office X3 under Win XP/Vista:
I need to check if my WordPerfect for Mac files can be opened with WordPerfect Office X3.
This approach does not provide me with the possibilities of using the application software which are “familiarized” with OS 9.

© Windoze PeeCee:
This seems the best choice for me -- (i) inexpensive at around US$50, (ii) runs with any application software under OS9 (including WordPerfect for Mac), even though it is installed under Win XP/Vista, and can be used with Parallels or Fusion and with Leopard, of course, (iii) does not require much technical expertise.

Dear smax013:
Pls confirm the above. Thanks.

Thank you very much for your help.

Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

Your phrasing has me confused...so I will restate what I see as your options...



Option #1: Get a MacBook and run SheepShaver so that you can use OS9 on an Intel Mac. As you noted, this does not seem to be an ideal solution for you due to difficulty and other factors.



Option #2: Run a Windoze version of WordPerfect in Windoze...there are two "sub-options" to this options:

a) Get an Intel Mac (i.e. MacBook) and run Windoze in BootCamp or either Parallels or Fusion. The cost to this option beyond the cost of the computer would be a couple of hundred of dollars for the Windoze license and maybe Parallels or Fursion (BootCamp is free). If you overwhelming priority is to get and use WordPerfect and you will not use the computer for much beyond that, then it is kind of a waste to get a Mac just to be using Windoze on it all the time. If you are doing other stuff on the Mac side, then this still might be a worthwhile option.

b) Get a Windoze PeeCee and just run WordPerfect on it and don't bother with a Mac anymore. This would likely cost less than the MacBook option with Windoze on it. This option makes more sense if your overwhelming or only priority is to use WordPerfect (i.e. you would be in Windoze all that time so having a Mac won't mean much).



Option #3: Get a MacBook and just bite the bullet and switch to some other word processor that can read WordPerfect files.



Option #4: Just stick with a PowerPC based Mac that can run OS9 and leave with not having a brand spankin' new, faster, better computer.



Personally, I think that Option #3 makes the most sense...but if you REALLY must have WordPerfect but still do other stuff on the Mac side of things, then #2a could really make sense.

[utsumi]

Dear smax013:

(1) Many thanks for your extensive reply.

(2) Yes, I think that the best option for me would be to follow your Option #2-(a) and (b), and run Windoze PeeCee under Win XP/Vista. I think that this will let me use WordPerfect for Mac and other OS9 application programs.

If this is also run with Parallels or Fusion, I would be able to use Leopard together.

This will then make me to run both of Leopard application programs and OS9 application programs side-by-side so that I can easily do copy-and-paste between the two.

(3) I would greatly appreciate it if you can kindly confirm this. If affirmative, I would not be left as an orphan of Steve Jobs any more.

Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

[smax013]

utsumi said:

Dear smax013:

(1) Many thanks for your extensive reply.

(2) Yes, I think that the best option for me would be to follow your Option #2-(a) and (b), and run Windoze PeeCee under Win XP/Vista. I think that this will let me use WordPerfect for Mac and other OS9 application programs.

If this is also run with Parallels or Fusion, I would be able to use Leopard together.

This will then make me to run both of Leopard application programs and OS9 application programs side-by-side so that I can easily do copy-and-paste between the two.

(3) I would greatly appreciate it if you can kindly confirm this. If affirmative, I would not be left as an orphan of Steve Jobs any more.

Best, Tak (utsumi@columbia.edu)

Windoze will NOT run OS9 programs...whether you use an Intel Mac with BootCamp or either Parallels or Fusion (option 2a) or if you drop going with a Mac and just get Windoze based hardware (option 2b). Either of these options requires that you get the Windoze version of WordPerfect (which still exists) and run it in Windoze. It has ZERO to do with Mac, whether OS9 or OS X...other than option 2a is still using a Mac so you will be able to use other Mac OS X programs with the Mac.

The only way to actually run OS9 programs is a) don't get an Intel Mac and stick with a PowerPC based Mac that still run OS9 natively or run OS9 in Classic mode...neither of which an Intel Mac can do by default or b) go the SheepShaver option with its difficulties and hassles.