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4 Replies Last post: Apr 4, 2008 10:43 AM by smax013  
Click to view pp7's profile New Member 8 posts since
Mar 2, 2003
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May 16, 2003 9:53 AM

Spam Hell

The amount of junk that I receive in my email has gone from a mild irritation to a major headache - I receive between 50 -100 junk mails a day; so if I miss a day or so looking at my mail I drown in rubbish I don't want to see. Of course I have set up the Entourage filter to put it straight in a 'junk' folder and it does a good job, but I still have to look at it since the odd important message slips in - a mail from an old friend I haven't seen for years; the final grades for a class. I tried changing my mail account and began receiving spam before I had even used it or given the address to anyone.
Why should we have to put up with this curse? Is there anyway to stop this mail ever arriving at my address. BAN SPAM!
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Click to view G35's profile New Member 35 posts since
May 12, 2003
1. May 16, 2003 12:08 PM in response to: pp7
Re: Spam Hell
Are you using your ISP e-mail account? I do not even check my ISP's e-mail account except maybe once a month just to delete the SPAM.

I have used a mac.com and macmail.com (free) and do not receive junk mail out of those. I gave my father an e-mail account from a site I run so that he could stop using his ISP's email account because the SPAM was so bad.

I would also advise against using the ISP e-mail account because what happens when you change ISP's? If you have your e-mail set up through somewhere else you can change ISP's anytime you need without having to forward all of your contacts your new e-mail account information.
Click to view car1son's profile Enthusiast 1,349 posts since
Aug 30, 2001
2. May 16, 2003 4:42 PM in response to: pp7
Re: Spam Hell
You might check if your ISP (or eMail account provider, if different) supports any spam filtering. E.g., with Earthlink they have an optional service they call "Spaminator" (actually powered by Brightmail underneath) that automatically removes some spam (regrettably, far from all, but it gets about 75%, reducing the burden on Entourage's filter and rules.)

Beyond that, a new eMail address with a different provider may be the only way to go. Preferably one that provides options for server-side spam filtering.
Click to view Gabbyn's profile New Member 5 posts since
Feb 18, 2008
3. Apr 4, 2008 9:58 AM in response to: pp7
Re: Spam Hell
I too have been looking for answers to SPAM Hell. I've been reading all of the complaints scattered about this forum. There appears to be a common behavior pattern to our dilemma. Nearly everyone with experience mentions their ISP. I've always considered myself to be a cautious surfer, learned what to avoid, how to tell if the site is safe or is spoofing. So I couldn't understand, "Why?," practically overnight, I was getting smut-spammed to death. Everyone and their dog was trying to send me a greeting card. All of my time sensitive "political bulletins" suddenly disappeared, arriving week's later and dated in the future, where it was too late to sign an online petition or write a letter to my congressperson before a critical vote. My friends started calling me on the phone, long distance, wondering if I'd fallen ill. I was ready to throw my computer out the window and then I called my ISP instead.

Unbeknownst to and me all their other subscribers, the support tech informed me, after three weeks of SPAM Hell, three weeks earlier, they'd installed an "email enhancement" program on their server. Supposedly to trap spam! "Uh oh," I thought, "it wouldn't be the first time a vendor caused a problem so they could SELL you the solution and raise fees." I told them to take that "enhancement" off my account and I'd deal with my own SPAM.

I bought SpamSieve off the net, for just $30, and it works like a charm. It captures 98% and that's good enough for me. Once the ISP's enhancement was out of my picture, a sense of normalcy returned. I had to create a web-based address, however, to get my "political bulletins" arriving on time again.

Oddly, it's now many month's later and a worse problem has arisen. Support Tech suggested "It's a virus" when I suggested they had a more serious security breach. The new problem: I'm sending myself smut mail, from me to me. Go figure! If I tag it as SPAM, I'll never be able to use my iCal's built-in email alarm to remind me of a doctor's appointment. And it isn't just smut, now it's truly "commercial" goods like "Gucci handbags!" What's ironic in all of this is when I called tech support this time, the robot router who answered the line said, "If you're calling about the Email Enhancement program push 1." This tells me, if it's a virus, it's infected their entire system or it wouldn't be the first option offered by their robo call router. Obviously, it's a huge problem for everyone and for some dumb reason, my ISP doesn't want to dump the program or mind losing customers and revenue over it.

After 9/11 we American's were advised by Bush to "go shopping" as you normally do and that's how you can help!" Citizenship is reduced to consumerism. Electronic surveillance keeps our war economy strong, boosting profits for the largest war profiteers. Emails reveal our innermost desires and that's why "Marketing is the seduction that leads to commercial intercourse," and easy enough when privacy no longer exists.

I recently joined the "openrights.org" forum not realizing they're based in the U.K. Electronic surveillance has been around much longer and stronger there, than it is here. The citizens are in a uproar over "identity theft" reaching pandemic proportions, since the war or terror began, with insufficient privacy protections not yet legislated. As of yesterday, Bankers in the UK are no longer accepting responsibility should a depositor lose their money if they can't prove they've taken every precaution, with anti-spam, anti-spyware and anti-virus software. Isn't it odd, how all of these security issues fall on the shoulders of those with the fewest resources, and the most to lose? After all, this is the price we pay for our national security. For some dumb reason, I feel more insecure than ever. I don't feel free and I don't feel safe! Data mining private information is sold to corporations to defray the costly expense of electronic surveillance and to me, it sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Click to view smax013's profile Old Hand 1,520 posts since
Jul 6, 2007
4. Apr 4, 2008 10:43 AM in response to: Gabbyn
Re: Spam Hell
You do realize that this thread is almost 5 years old, don't you?


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