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Click to view TomMacs's profile Enthusiast 1,067 posts since
Mar 25, 2003
30. Oct 1, 2003 6:29 PM in response to: DrG
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
In reply to:<hr />
what might be the advantage for the average user of a G5 in a PowerBook?

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Well in this time as games progress in technology they require faster computers, and soon there will be a standard speed,(this also happens when tech progresses) it can be seen now there are less and less slower speed CPUs and games have higher specifications. So it may not be the specific G5 processor, maybe the PPC 890, since it's supposedly smaller and emits less heat. But I do see a need in G5 or faster laptop. As we all can see. It's not only games, but as the world progresses and film soon dies, Digital equipment will thrive. Therefore many pro outdoor, or any photographers will want to take their computer with them, to do on sight images previews and fixing, which is what I do. But then there people who travel allot, and use graphics programs which require high speeded CPUs for productive rendering and etc. I do not see a need for the average user though, who my not need all the speed and thats the point of the iBook. Then there are PowerBook which are more professional oriented.
Plus as said Apple is selling more laptop then desktops, so Apple should build faster laptops to stay in line with their competition and they would sell more computers. Not that I'd prefer a laptops over a desktops. But then agian having both rules.
Click to view SueG's profile Old Hand 2,396 posts since
May 19, 2002
31. Oct 1, 2003 9:04 PM in response to: DrG
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Italics are surrounded by an i and a /i in square brackets (without the spaces). It is one of the options offered in the Instant UBB Code box below the composition area.

Now I'll ask one. What sort of code does one surround by the code /code tags?
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
32. Oct 1, 2003 9:41 PM in response to: SueG
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Exactly what it implies: code.
Let me show you...
<pre>code:<hr>
public static void main(String args[])
{ int i = 0;
for(i; i< 100; i++)
{ System.out.println("HebrewToYou knows JAVA but not nearly as well as he should.");
System.exit(0);
}
}
</pre><hr>
Click to view SueG's profile Old Hand 2,396 posts since
May 19, 2002
34. Oct 2, 2003 2:40 PM in response to: DrG
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
DrG - pas de tout, I'm guessing that when you finished your college education one posted things to a bulletin board with thumbtacks. I learned HTML before UBB, but my kids know both.

H2U - Of course! The veil is lifted. It's bars, a header and, I suppose, a sort of comment box to prevent the display from getting confused. I could have displayed the tags:

<pre>code:<hr> [i]italics+ [b]bold[/b] </pre><hr>
without having them display in italics or bold. It seems so obvious now, but I was hoping for something that would make the display respond to rather than ignore the enclosed code.
Click to view blackwind's profile New Member 113 posts since
Apr 23, 2002
36. Oct 3, 2003 11:30 PM in response to: DrG
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Firstly, thank you for your compliments.

As for your quandary, it is indeed a difficult choice. The Power Mac G5 is not that inexpensive, and the best bang for your buck comes from the high-end Dual 2-GHz G5, which is not good if you are on a limited budget.

My first question is: do you need to use Virtual PC? If you do, and if you really need a new computer soon, then I recommend a Dual 1.25-GHz Power Mac G4. It will use Virtual PC, it is reasonably fast, it is reasonably priced, and it is very expandable. (It even uses Mac OS 9.2.2.) The only problem is that it cannot be upgraded to the PowerPC 970 or any of its successors, as it would require fairly major alterations to the motherboard. For the price of altering the motherboard, you might as well get a new Mac when you need to upgrade to a faster processor.

If the Dual 1.25-GHz Power Mac G4 is too expensive, then try getting a 1.25-GHz Power Mac G4 as your next choice, assuming that Virtual PC is one of your needs.

Note that the Power Mac G4 models may still be upgradable to faster processors if faster G4 processors are released by Motorola. Unfortunately, it is unlikely that anything Motorola will produce for the next few years could match even today's 2-GHz PowerPC 970.

If you are dead-set on getting an iMac if you need Virtual PC, then get an iMac.

If you don't need Virtual PC, then I would definitely suggest a G5. Unfortunately, this also depends on your budget.

For the most bang for your buck, I suggest the Dual 2-GHz G5. For the first time in this century, Apple has released a computer that has similar features and performs at least on par with similarly-priced competition ($3549 Dual 2-GHz Power Mac G5 versus a $3223 Dual 2.66-GHz Xeon Dell workstation and a $3910 Dual 1.8-GHz Opteron workstation from BOXX) and has a superior operating system (albeit the operating system is more subjective than anything else).

Unfortunately, $3000 US is not exactly inexpensive. (Of course, this also gives you an indication of the total bang the Dual G5 gives... )

This leaves the single-processor models. The 1.6-GHz G5 is difficult to recommend because it is somewhat slow (as far as state-of-the-art processors go) and has been crippled with normal PCI slots and slower RAM. The base model of the 1.6-GHz G5 also has pitiful amounts of RAM. The 1.8-GHz G5 is better, but it is still fairly pricey at $2399. The 1.6-GHz G5, with the same amount of RAM, though, costs almost as much. Don't bother with the 1.6-GHz G5.

So in summary, here are my recommendations:

If Virtual PC is critical:
1) Dual 1.25-GHz Power Mac G4 at $1924
2) 1.25-GHz iMac G4 at $1799 + ~$100 extra for more RAM (256 MB is not nearly enough)

If Virtual PC is not critical:
1) Dual 2-GHz Power Mac G5 at $2999
2) 1.8-GHz Power Mac G5 at $2399
Click to view Filburt's profile Member 236 posts since
Jul 16, 2001
39. Oct 6, 2003 1:20 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
In reply to:<hr />
<pre>code:<hr>public static void main(String args[])
{ int i = 0;
for(i; i< 100; i++)
{ System.out.println("HebrewToYou knows JAVA but not nearly as well as he should.");
System.exit(0);
}
}</pre><hr>

<hr />
Perhaps it was intentional, but that code won't work.

System.exit(0); should be outside the for loop.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
40. Oct 6, 2003 6:15 PM in response to: Filburt
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Yeah, you're right.
I altered the code (and the brackets) a couple times during the process of posting and in doing so I blew it.

Weak performance from the Hebrew. For shame.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
41. Oct 6, 2003 6:26 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Weak indeed!
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
42. Oct 6, 2003 8:55 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: The foreseeable future for the G5 PowerMac
Thanks for the feedback, Jeremy.
It's not often the Hebrew makes a mistake. Rub it in while you can, 'cause I'll be correcting your poor grammar for months to come. Harumph.