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Click to view schoessl's profile New Member 107 posts since
Jun 9, 2003
30. Oct 24, 2003 10:59 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
@Hebrew, you demonstrate classical symptoms of North American complacency. You are indeed very naive to assume that if something is not "released" for the consumer market, it simply doesn't exist.

But I won't lose sleep over your disbelief It's cute, in a way.


@ New to Mac: I agree, that would be the way to go

Click to view VeggieBeefcake's profile Member 398 posts since
Feb 13, 2001
31. Oct 24, 2003 11:39 PM in response to: JohnVL
Re: PDA and OS 10
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"Anybody who is anybody has a cell phone today."

Speaking as a nobody, I would rather pay the price of a little inconvenience than giving others the chance to bother me anytime they want to. For me, simplicity and simplifying my life is a goal. And having my ear locked to an electronic ball and chain just doesn't seem appealing at all.

At home at night, I would rather the phone doesn't ring. I have a multitude of friends, great respect in our community for who I am and what I do and how I do it. I don't need a cell phone to complicate my life.


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Great post, I found that comment to be haughty and ignorant.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
32. Oct 25, 2003 1:27 AM in response to: schoessl
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Wrong, your phone doesnt even come close to the capacity of a PDA. The phone operating system (unless it is Palm or Symbian based) does not offer the number of data entry fields that the PDA does. Try and put 5 phone numbers, e-mail, address, city, state zip, notes, for each of your phone entries, while your phone specs may say it will hold 500 phone numbers, it means just that, 500 total, so if you have 5 numbers per entry, your net is 100 listings, very limiting.

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My T68 supports up to 500 contacts in internal memory and 80 on the SIM card. The P900 has, I believe, support for over 2000 contacts. And, btw, my T68 (along with the P900) supports unlimited numbers per contact, along with unlimted email addresses.

It syncs flawlessly with iSync/Address Book. Flawlessly.

schoessl, you're just wrong.
Google "Sony Ericsson P900" and see if any site, for any country, has had the P900 for sale since before last week. It wasn't for sale. It wasn't even released to the public. You're making things up, probably because you're confusing the P800 with the P900. Completely different phone.

Stop trippin' and recognize.

VeggieBeefcake,
I don't think you caught on to the intended humor.
What a weirdo. People take this stuff way too personally.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
33. Oct 25, 2003 8:58 AM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
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And, btw, my T68 (along with the P900) supports unlimited numbers per contact, along with unlimted email addresses.

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I cant believe that I have to correct you on this, All devices have a limitation on the number of entries based on available memory. They are also limited based on the number of data entry fields allocated by the operating system to each contact listing.

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I don't think you caught on to the intended humor.

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Maybe you need to work on your delivery.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
34. Oct 25, 2003 10:51 AM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
You're right.
But, a single contact can take up all the memory if you choose to give it, say, 500 email addresses.

There is room for growth and expansion was what I was trying to get across.
It's not like the memory on these cell phones can be called "limited" anymore, because they've got a TON of space now. Especially new SIM cards, which hold 250 contacts on their own. Couple that with the flash memory onboard the new P900 and you've got a crapload of contact space, along with calender information, etc...

And, yes, I do need to work on delivering humor via text.
As much as I enjoy the use of smilies, preempting every witty or humorous remark would be tedious and rather irritating to read.

So, instead I hope for people to pick up on most of the subtle stuff along the way.
Click to view csyria's profile Member 265 posts since
Feb 23, 2003
35. Oct 27, 2003 1:38 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
Each one is good for a certain thing. \
Cell phone: Size, network content, phone book.
PDA: Applications, media, datebook

I say get a good cell phone and a good PDA and your set to go.
But, some people just need a cell phne and some people need a PDA. GET WHAT YOU F ING NEED.

Also, to answer the original quewstion, I would suggest the Tungsten E for what it seems like you want. the only thing it can't really do is make calls or use cell phone networks.
Click to view AmeriJap's profile New Member 15 posts since
Oct 30, 2003
36. Oct 30, 2003 2:06 PM in response to: MacBob47
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If you want to get a PDA go with an original Palm unit. Those are more reliable and tend to crash less. If you go to Sony Clie you need to be warned that the internal lithium battery that each possesses dies rather quick. Furthermore, these units crash frequently causing all data to be erased. At any rate, always keep a backup of your data on harddrive each time you make significant changes. Else, when a crash occurs you will be very sorry.
Click to view d00d's profile Macworld Editorial 12,136 posts since
Apr 24, 2001
37. Oct 30, 2003 8:46 PM in response to: AmeriJap
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I have had no such problems with my Clie.
Click to view rockinphotog's profile Old Hand 2,977 posts since
Oct 27, 2001
38. Nov 1, 2003 9:34 AM in response to: Nobody
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Palm Desktop ain't on my G5 -- and thank heavens for it's absence.
That is a horrid application deserving of only one directory: /Trash


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I still use palm Desktop as my only database, and it works incredibly well. I have to happily disagree with you here. It works. It doesn't crash. I think that ical just about caught up to it now with color labeling categories and a few other things, so I may try it out, But I have no real incentive (other than curiosity) to move on.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
39. Nov 1, 2003 4:04 PM in response to: rockinphotog
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. It works. It doesn't crash.

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I agree, that is one of the most redeeming qualities about the Palm Desktop App.

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But I have no real incentive (other than curiosity) to move on.

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I just traded up to a Palm T3, it runs version 5.2 on the handheld which supports the T3s 400Mhz processor along list of other things and it syncs with Palm Desktop 4.1.2 (Windows version), there have been some major changes, its way better than the Mac version, unfortunately the only way to check it out is to buy a new device or borrow it from someone, it not available for download from Palm , yet. The Palm desktop is one of the few applications that is simpler and better on Windows than on a Mac, IMO.
Click to view csyria's profile Member 265 posts since
Feb 23, 2003
40. Nov 5, 2003 9:51 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
I was wondering: If there wasn't a battle between at least one mod about Cell phones Vs. PDAs, wouldn't this article be closed?

My recomendations:
Budget, but with nice features:
Tungsten E $200
I'm put off by no Universal Connector, but maybe someday

Ultimate:
Tungsten T2 or T3
Around $400 for the 3, maybe 350 on the 2
Click to view JohnnyA's profile Member 550 posts since
Apr 27, 2001
41. Nov 6, 2003 2:24 AM in response to: MacBob47
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IMO, the combo cell phone-PDAs are not yet ready for primetime. Kinda like the early printer-fax-copier-scanner combo units were inferior to individual dedicated-function units. (And maybe still are.)
I also think Palms generally suck compared to Pocket PCs. But the latter really require a Windows PC for problem-free compatibility syncing and transferring files.
Finally, look for the smallest, lightest unit you can find, with removable batteries. Get maximum RAM. And use an SD card as the unit's main storage space.
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
42. Nov 6, 2003 10:45 AM in response to: JohnnyA
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IMO, the combo cell phone-PDAs are not yet ready for primetime.

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And which one do you own and have thorougly tested to make such a decision?

You're the guy who told folks with printer problems to buy a PC to spare them the aggravation. So maybe you're not the best person to be giving purchasing advice. Just something to think about.
Click to view mystery_stain's profile Enthusiast 1,197 posts since
Feb 2, 2001
43. Nov 6, 2003 10:57 AM in response to: rockinphotog
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I still use palm Desktop as my only database, and it works incredibly well. I have to happily disagree with you here. It works. It doesn't crash. I think that ical just about caught up to it now with color labeling categories and a few other things, so I may try it out, But I have no real incentive (other than curiosity) to move on.

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I still use Palm Desktop too, for now. iCal won't let me customize the fonts and category colors like I can in Palm Desktop, and that's making iCal less readable for me. And because iSync won't sync everything that Palm does.

My question is, for those using Palm Desktop in OS X, does it crash on quit if you have alarms turned on? It does on two of my Macs. One's 10.2.8, the other's Panther clean install. I'm hoping it isn't a corrupted user data file. If it is, anyone know how to rebuild it?
Click to view yesterday's profile New Member 60 posts since
Feb 27, 2003
44. Nov 6, 2003 1:23 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: PDA and OS 10
First off, this is a great example of how a thread can allow a debate to grow without being debased to personal attacks and trolling for attention.

I'm using a Nokia whatever with Cingular and a Palm. Into the Palm, I've loaded:
a PDF viewer (currently not loaded),
a Word viewer (also currently not loaded),
a shareware spreadsheet app (which came in very handy when buying a car a couple years ago!),
an app to log mileage (for business with various clients, medical, charity, and for different cars),
a travel directory of places to stay and dine at in various cities,
a doodling app which actually comes in very handy pretty often,
MapQuest's PDA map viewer,
a scientific calculator, and
a freeware quizzing app for studying my "language of the month".

Additionally:
I have about 300 contacts in place, each with at least a home phone, work phone, and e-mail (usually they also have notes such as spouse name, b-day, etc.); and, I DO enter the particulars from business cards directly into the Palm.
There's also the pre-loaded date book that currently has about 150 records since I haven't purged it in a while.
Finally, there's the task list I use almost every day.

Oh wait! I forgot the games I've loaded too.

Would I be able to load and use all these applications on the Sony Ericsson P900 you seem to be drooling over? I'd love to be able to save a bit of room in my pocket or briefcase. Memory is not an issue. I do all this on a Palm VII, which has only 2MB.