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25 Replies Last post: Oct 11, 2005 11:52 AM by macnuke   Go to original post 1 2 Previous Next
Click to view macnuke's profile Old Hand 6,672 posts since
Mar 5, 2004
15. Oct 10, 2005 10:52 AM in response to: PeterG
Re: Great! They're moving up to toothbrush technology
actually....
it's cordless some of the time.
but it's a dock by any other name.

Click to view Moof_in_Charge's profile Member 586 posts since
Jul 27, 2005
16. Oct 10, 2005 11:15 AM in response to: bazooka_joe
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
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It would be cool of you could build this into every square inch of flooring in your home

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Well I think what you are saying is that it would be cool if we had fission reactors in every home so we could use energy without a care in the world on useless ideas like this... Because it certainly wouldnt be cool to have to go out there and build more nuke plants or burn more oil so we can consume the energy in such a cool way... May be we should cover the Polar Icecap like that...I hear real-estate is getting real cheap there since more ground is available in place of where ice used to be! Forget the Bahmas this winter..I think it's getting mighty tropical up around North Pole.

Click to view sdf's profile Member 339 posts since
Mar 24, 2004
17. Oct 10, 2005 2:44 PM in response to: Moof_in_Charge
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
Pollution device? Believe it or not, some areas have advanced past the 1930s and don't get their power by burning stuff.

Once we get to the point where devices start including receivers, I'll be a happy camper. Every wire that connects to a device is one more wire to be tripped over and cause the device to be dropped. I'd much rather have a pad like this that can have the power cord tucked safely away.
Click to view melgross's profile Member 237 posts since
Sep 9, 2004
18. Oct 10, 2005 3:40 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
This is a very old idea. Tesla came up with wireless power over one hundred years ago.

I built wireless powered items when I was in my teens in the '60's. Other companies over the years have come up with similar devices but they never caught on because they're clumsy. Look at the size of that thing! Pointless.

I also have a Sonic Care toothbrush that uses induction. It's perfect for some things, not others.
Click to view macnuke's profile Old Hand 6,672 posts since
Mar 5, 2004
19. Oct 10, 2005 3:47 PM in response to: melgross
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
as a very old poster, I almost forgot the wonders of my youth.
thanks for refreshing my memory.
and for what it's worth, I agree very much so.
Click to view Moof_in_Charge's profile Member 586 posts since
Jul 27, 2005
20. Oct 10, 2005 3:52 PM in response to: sdf
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
Anytime a device uses 2.5 times the energy to do the same task as the original adapter it becomes a pollution device PERIOD . And if you can prove to me that you will actually end up losing a cable on your iPod by going this route I will grant you a point but I think once you do the math, you will see that this device wont save you a cable, indeed in some cases it will end up adding a cable + yet more adapters while eating more electricity charging the same battery. This is a very bad idea and it will fail in the market place because not only they wont convince the manufacturers to build connectors but the cost of the adapters alone will rocket the device in to holly cow, what was I thinking category it just looks cool!


Disclaimer on the electrical usage, since the article and the company that produce this product fails to specify this number, I am basing this assumption on a different posters numbers I believe this to be correct.


I hope you like the festive iconic post.
Click to view clayshima's profile New Member 40 posts since
Aug 16, 2004
21. Oct 10, 2005 6:22 PM in response to: sdf
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
It IS a pollution device. PERIOD again.

One of the great problems that the human race faces (and will face for a long time to come) is global warming.

Sure, things are pretty bad the way they already are, but just think about when every human being on earth get to have a few more kilowatts to play with, everyday (remember that there are millions of people in the world that don't have access (yet) to electric energy). Even if you think only about the heat (there are lots of other potential polluents and negative factors, but for simplicity's sake let's stick with this for the moment) - Heat emitted when generating energy. Heat emitted when converting energy. Heat emitted when transporting energy. Heat emitted when using energy. The way we use energy nowadays is nowhere near perfect. Just think about all the heat coming from electric appliances: almost all of it is wasted energy, energy that could not be used and had to be eliminated. But we know that heat cannot be eliminated, it has to pass to another medium, in our case, our atmosphere.

Even when not wasting resources, we are polluting. The fact that human beings gathers in a place to form a city is a MAJOR form of pollution. The point is to minimize the effects (as long as ther is human race, there won't be a "eliminating the effects"). And not wasting may be the better way to accomplish this. As Moof_in_Charge says, "Anytime a device uses 2.5 times the energy to do the same task as the original adapter it becomes a pollution device PERIOD."

Click to view moose_n_squirrel's profile Old Hand 2,860 posts since
Sep 16, 2004
22. Oct 10, 2005 6:34 PM in response to: clayshima
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
Even regular chargers are pretty inefficient. Those little power brick transformers are notorious for their energy leakage due to always being on and throwing off heat during the conversion.

And the issue of heat is the hidden danger of future power sources like fusion. What if we did have a clean, inexhaustible way to generate energy? We would still want to exercise conservation. If clean power means we feel OK generating 1000 times as much energy as we do now, along with the developing countries coming online with increased capacity, and the cheap clean power makes engineers lazy and our devices inefficient, even with zero pollution there's going to be so much heat pumped into the atmosphere we're going to wish for the good old days of difficult energy, back when New York and New Orleans weren't flooded and abandoned, and when you could still ski in the mountains.
Click to view Netizen_Kane's profile Member 425 posts since
Nov 1, 2001
23. Oct 10, 2005 7:36 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
This shouldn't be called wireless since it still does have an AC cord. A more accurate term would be a universal contactless charger. There was another concept I prefer from a couple of years back, but I don't remember the name of it. That design used a grid of small contacts embedded in the surface. That would have much less energy loss than inductive charging. It could actually save power compared to current setups because one universal charger could replace a power strip full of AC adapters. And if you were to add some intelligent circuity, power waste when nothing is connected could be minimized. Apple's chargers are already "smart." My Powerbook's AC adapter doesn't get warm when it's just maintaining a fully charged battery.
Click to view wiz420's profile New Member 16 posts since
Sep 8, 2004
24. Oct 11, 2005 11:45 AM in response to: macFanDave
Re: Great! They're moving up to toothbrush techno
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Now, if you could beam electricity across a room to a device, THAT would be true wireless freedom.

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Just don't get in the way!!! (sizzle, the smell of burnt flesh)
Click to view macnuke's profile Old Hand 6,672 posts since
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25. Oct 11, 2005 11:52 AM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Splashpower wants to cut the charger cord
a dock is a dock is a dock.
BLEH