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Aug 29, 2006 1:40 PM

Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgrade

Participants in the Macworld Reader Panel think the next version of OS X looks interesting, if not necessarily revolutionary. More than two-thirds of respondents plan to upgrade to Leopard within the first three months of its release. more
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1. Aug 29, 2006 5:06 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgrade
How can you not be impressed with Time Machine?

It involves time travel, space travel, and wormholes.. All built into the OS!

That said, I bet I will use it less than spotlight, at least the 10.4 spotlight.. But I'm expecting my spotlight use to shoot upwards with the improvements they're making to it.
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2. Aug 29, 2006 5:11 PM in response to: sigma8
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
My recent experience with trying to find a particular deleted e-mail on my Backup.app backup makes Time Machine even more desirable.
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3. Aug 29, 2006 5:57 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgrade
100 percent likely to get a Mac Pro at work. It's already ordered.

100 percent likely to get a MacBook Pro at work. As soon as the merom chip model comes out, it's ordered!

Leopard will be pu to use ASAP after release, as will Adobe CS3. All the rest is a big resounding maybe.

Eric

There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence. - Will Rogers

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4. Aug 29, 2006 6:36 PM in response to: sigma8
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
From what I've read, I'd say I'm likely to upgrade just to get Time Machine.

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That said, I bet I will use it less than spotlight

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That's the thing; you don't have to use Time Machine to "use" Time Machine. Unless I misunderstood how it works, it does its thing in the background and you only use it when you need to recover something. So, yes, hopefully I'd use Spotlight more frequently than I use Time Machine, too

Oh, and I'm waiting for a next-gen MacBookPro, too. I'm looking to replace my desktop system for daily use and I think the next-gen (w/Merom? Is that it?) will have more than enough power to do so, including play the occasional game and do some stuff in CS2/3. My desktop would then become a media and Time Machine backup server.
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5. Aug 29, 2006 7:27 PM in response to: wardoggie
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
What ever happened to Quartz Extreme? Or what ever they called the quartz feature that at the last minute they disabled in Tiger?
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6. Aug 29, 2006 7:47 PM in response to: salmonstk
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Yes, and whatever happened to MPEG2 playback improvements that were supposed to be rolled into CoreVideo? DVD Player still does a terrible job deinterlacing non-film sourced video. Film sourced deinterlacing, by comparison, rises all the way to 'mediocre' compared to a $30 standalone DVD player. It's the Achilles heel of Mac OS X as a media player. Windows' options (TheaterTek, etc) blow DVD Player away. Windows' standard MPEG2 playback component far exceeds the quality of Apple's $29 QuickTime plugin.

These issues will likely continue haunting Apple when Blu-Ray Macs ship. Many BD's rely on MPEG2 decoding. We've not seen the end of this issue, though Apple may wish MPEG2 would dry up and blow away.

DVD Player has definitely been languishing since 10.3.0. A rotten pumpkin is stuck on DVD Player team's doorstep and nobody notices.
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7. Aug 29, 2006 8:02 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgrade
I think it is an interesting update but only to a point. So far I think It's a little lackluster. Time Machine is probably the most interesting, and personally useful part of it, but I think most people want to see improvements to the Finder, and I would like to see a major update to Safari. There are web pages that read funny in safari, and in safari alone that really urk me. (Like Dorian Cleavengers web site) I also think preview needs to better the way it deals with multiple pictures. If I open a group of .jpg, or any format of pictures in preview, I think I should be able to save them all together in one PDF and extract the individual images later in their original, or to a converted format of my choosing. Little things like that are important to me.
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8. Aug 29, 2006 8:33 PM in response to: Machound
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
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DVD Player still does a terrible job deinterlacing non-film sourced video. Film sourced deinterlacing, by comparison, rises all the way to 'mediocre' compared to a $30 standalone DVD player. It's the Achilles heel of Mac OS X as a media player. Windows' options (TheaterTek, etc) blow DVD Player away. Windows' standard MPEG2 playback component far exceeds the quality of Apple's $29 QuickTime plugin.

These issues will likely continue haunting Apple when Blu-Ray Macs ship. Many BD's rely on MPEG2 decoding.

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I don't think many people spend a lot of time watching DVD's on their computers. Laptop DVD playback is more popular, especially when away from home. My PowerBook G4 played DVD's flawlessly, all the way back to Jaguar 10.2. Watching a DVD on a 15" screen doesn't really require prestine playback to enjoy the movie.

Consumers are not ready to jump on the Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD) player bandwagon just yet....especially since the first round of players are "mediocre" in performance and cost $1,000. There are still some playback issues as well, specifically whether or not your current HDTV will even accept a 1080p HDMI signal from the Blu-Ray Player.

More interesting info: the ratings of the first players are not that great. The picture quality is inconsistent from disc to disc, and noise artifacts were obviously apparent in different films. The comment was made that a poor film transfer to disc is easily visible and reminded the reviewer of still watching a "video." Ouch!

So do your homework on both HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Neither format looks ready to replace DVD just yet. Maybe in a few years when one format dies and the other prevails.
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9. Aug 29, 2006 10:02 PM in response to: hillstones
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
Exponent's "On-topic" reply:

64-bit isn't just "interesting", it is "important" for me. If you do serious computing work, it will open the door for such serious apps to come to Mac OS X, without the need to rip the GUI away from the computational code. So if those Xeon-based Mac Pros make headway where Linux and Solaris boxes currently tread, Leopard will be a critical upgrade.

Exponent's "Off-topic" reply to hillstones:

Don't lump in HD-DVD with Blu Ray (or "Blur-ry" as it is becoming known)! HD-DVD is LESS THAN HALF of Blu Ray's $1000 cost, and the movies are PRISTINE. Firmware upgrades are clearing up birthing pains on Toshiba's initial player.

Blu Ray on the other hand is hampered with super-expensive, buggy, hard-to-upgrade players, and poorly mastered movies. The format battle is now Toshiba/HD-DVD's to lose, from a technical, cost, and now customer base issue. All they need is another manufacturer or two to join them on the player front, and another studio or two to join them on the studio front, and it's game over for Sony/Blu Ray....
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10. Aug 29, 2006 10:17 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
Don't forget that there are a bunch of Top Secret features that will not be shown until Leopard's release (or just before). Personally, I'd wait until then to decide if/when to upgrade, because you don't have the full picture. They might be major, they might be minor, but you don't know yet.
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11. Aug 29, 2006 10:39 PM in response to: wardoggie
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
Time Machine! Time Machine! Time Machine! That's exactly it. Apple does not need to update anything else. Just give us Time Machine. No other new features needed. I would even pay Apple the full license fee just to get Time Machine installed onto my 10.4.7 right now.

I can't wait for Time Machine to arrive.
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12. Aug 29, 2006 10:42 PM in response to: Deejemon
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Don't forget that there are a bunch of Top Secret features that will not be shown until Leopard's release (or just before).

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I can't help but believe that what was released at WWDC was just Tiger with some new features. I'd bet Leopard will be more drastically different and maybe will require a full version increment (a.k.a 11 or XI).

The next release will come at MacWorld.

It would benefit Apple to do beta and release candidates before the final gold release. They only saw enough benefit to do a beta with the 10.0 release.
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13. Aug 29, 2006 10:58 PM in response to: Deejemon
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
Leopard's top secret features . . . it sounded to me that Jobs' announced upcoming secret features are being kept secret for now 'cause of MS' copycat drones.

Leopard hinted for release after Vista's.
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14. Aug 29, 2006 11:36 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: Macworld Survey: Leopard looks like solid upgr
Is Leopard universal? Will it work on G5 processors or will it only work on the new Intel chips?
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