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Click to view Macworld.com's profile Enthusiast 1,900 posts since
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Oct 31, 2006 7:20 AM

Mac OS X Hints Weblog: Take a closer look at your documents

A new feature in Mac OS X 10.4.8 lets you hold down the Control key and zoom at the point the cursor is, using a scroll wheel or trackpad. more
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Click to view webstyr's profile New Member 30 posts since
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1. Oct 31, 2006 10:40 AM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Mac OS X Hints Weblog: Take a closer look at your documents
Since discovering this feature a month ago, I am amazed at how often I use it. Increasing the text size only increases the text size, not graphics on the page. This lets me zoom in on hard to see details of a picture. My eyes aren't what they used to be and before this feature I had to use a magnifying glass I kept near my Mac. I haven't used it once since I started using this feature. Awesome stuff Apple! Thanks for being so detail orientated.
Click to view OM_user's profile Member 649 posts since
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2. Oct 31, 2006 11:25 AM in response to: Macworld.com
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Is this just accessing the Universal Access Zoom feature that's been in OS X for years now? If so, you can invoke it with a Cmd Opt 8, and then Cmd Opt =/- to zoom in/out respectively.

Granted, it's handy to have this easily accessible with a control-scroll function too.
Click to view yesterday's profile New Member 60 posts since
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3. Oct 31, 2006 11:56 AM in response to: OM_user
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I've routinely zoomed in and out on various documents after discovering the Windows feature with scroll mouses (Ctrl + scroll wheel) several years ago. Before Tiger OS X 10.4.8, the Mac feature worked similarly as for Windows. That is, the zoom of the current document was affected. If you were looking at a Word doc, the Word zoom level would change, but NOT the whole screen. The same went for other apps with zoom features (very handy for examining spreadsheets at a glance for extraneous cells!), including browsers' text size--but not the image size. Unfortunately it didn't work with Mac Mail, but that's another topic.

Now, though, they've replaced that functionality with this method of zooming the entire screen.

I don't like this new way. I hope there's an option to let me go back to the Windows-like functionality. Thanks for explaining what happened to one of my favorite features.
Click to view kirkmc's profile New Member 108 posts since
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4. Oct 31, 2006 12:28 PM in response to: OM_user
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It's probably just using the same Universal Access routine, but you can scroll to refine the zoom, rather than simply zoom in or out by a set factor.

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5. Oct 31, 2006 12:29 PM in response to: yesterday
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Command - + or Command - - (minus) works in most programs.

Kirk
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6. Oct 31, 2006 3:15 PM in response to: yesterday
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Before Tiger OS X 10.4.8, the Mac feature worked similarly as for Windows....

I think you're (understandably) confused. The Mac's prior zooming behavior is not as you described. What I believe you were seeing was behavior explicitly provided by a subset of your applications. That behavior is still there, but now masked by OS functionality that's invoked by the same user action. You should get your Windows-like functionality back by simply remapping or disabling Apple's behavior as described in the article.
Click to view moose_n_squirrel's profile Old Hand 2,826 posts since
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7. Oct 31, 2006 3:20 PM in response to: yesterday
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I don't like this new way. I hope there's an option to let me go back to the Windows-like functionality. Thanks for explaining what happened to one of my favorite features.

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Nothing has changed. All Apple did was add another shortcut for it.
This zooming behavior has nothing to do with applications themselves. It has no effect on their settings. This zoom is part of accessibility which is a government requirement to help those with disabilities, visual disabilities in this case, which is why both Microsoft and Apple have this feature. The convenience for presentations, web design, etc. is a side benefit but not the main reason for being. The post from the person who used to need a magnifying glass is an example of this. Life is made easier for them.

If you notice, when you use the Universal Access zooming, the zoomed image is blurry because it is only scaling existing pixels. That is not like Excel etc. view zooming or Command +/- zooming where the image remains sharp because the actual objects are being scaled. When Apple completes implementing Resolution Independence in Leopard, we might see this type of zoom remain perfectly sharp except for those UI elements that are still bitmaps or small bitmaps. But it still remains distinct from actual scaling of objects as opposed to the screen output.
Click to view yesterday's profile New Member 60 posts since
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8. Oct 31, 2006 4:19 PM in response to: bastion
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Before Tiger OS X 10.4.8, the Mac feature worked similarly as for Windows....

I think you're (understandably) confused. The Mac's prior zooming behavior is not as you described. What I believe you were seeing was behavior explicitly provided by a subset of your applications. That behavior is still there, but now masked by OS functionality that's invoked by the same user action. You should get your Windows-like functionality back by simply remapping or disabling Apple's behavior as described in the article.

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That explains it then. You're right--I wasn't thinking about "OS vs app" functionality. I'll disable the mouse option and hope it goes back to the way I prefer. Then when my eyes degenerate enough, I'll turn it back on. Thanks.
Click to view XMattingly's profile New Member 27 posts since
Oct 31, 2006
9. Oct 31, 2006 8:35 PM in response to: Macworld.com
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Correction: The zooming feature was only available for the Wireless Mighty Mouse initially. The wired Mighty Mouse didn't come with the installation software to enable zooming, nor was it available from Apple's website to download. Though I did lend a friend the install disc for my wireless, and it worked fine with his wired model before 10.4.8 was released. So for a few weeks or so, anyone who bought the Wireless had a brand-new exclusive feature!
Click to view Rhywun's profile Member 442 posts since
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10. Oct 31, 2006 9:39 PM in response to: XMattingly
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The preference settings must only be for the Mighty Mouse? I can zoom with my wireless Logitech mouse, but there are no options to change it under Preferences.
Click to view Angusdog's profile New Member 185 posts since
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11. Nov 1, 2006 3:39 AM in response to: Rhywun
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In case it helps someone else, it should be noted that "Zoom" must be enabled in Universal Access for it to work. Took me a while to work out why it worked in my studio but not at home.
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12. Nov 1, 2006 8:27 AM in response to: Macworld.com
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This feature is definitely a step forward for people, like me, who are visually impaired. The keyboard shortcut method or zooming does not allow for much control of zoom size. Now I can zoom as much or as little as I need without being limited to fixed increments.

For those who don't like this feature, for whatever reason, you can turn it off in the Mouse tab in the Keyboard & Mouse preference pane or change the keyboard shortcut that activates it.


Don't anthropomorphize computers - They hate that.
Click to view HandyMac's profile New Member 125 posts since
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13. Nov 1, 2006 6:45 PM in response to: Angusdog
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In case it helps someone else, it should be noted that "Zoom" must be enabled in Universal Access for it to work. Took me a while to work out why it worked in my studio but not at home.

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Well, I turned Zoom off in Universal Access, and it still works for me.

However, I'm not using a mouse, but a 1.5GHz PowerBook with iScroll2 installed. I looked at the Trackpad pane in Keyboard & Mouse, where I'd noticed before that the latest version of iScroll2 adds the same "Use two fingers to scroll" checkbox found in the newer portables (with trackpad scrolling built in by Apple) under Trackpad Gestures; now it also has a checkbox for "Zoom while holding choose modifier key".

So I assume this will also work with the newer portables that have trackpad scrolling built in.
Click to view Angusdog's profile New Member 185 posts since
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14. Nov 6, 2006 3:40 AM in response to: HandyMac
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Update: My G5 at home stops zooming with the Microsoft mouse wheel on restart. I need to go into Universal Access and turn zoom off and on again for it to work.