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15. Jan 30, 2007 12:36 PM in response to: JScott
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16. Jan 30, 2007 12:37 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Gates: Vista key to multimedia computing era
Windows 95, released 12 years ago, was the first version of the OS to include Internet Explorer, an obscure feature at the time, Gates said, speaking at a Vista and Office 2007 launch event.<<

Nice revision of Windows history. IE didn't ship with Windows 95. It was part of the Plus pack that you had to pay an extra 30 dollars for.
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17. Jan 30, 2007 12:40 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: Gates: Vista key to multimedia computing era
MacCentral doesn't exist anymore, Jmay. As you can see, the masthead and logo read "Macworld."

As someone who has Mac OS X and Windows installed on more than one Mac in my house, my perspective -- as a reader -- is decidedly less narrow than yours is on what qualifies as Macworld-worthy news. I'd rather not have to scurry all over the Internet looking for information that's relevant to me. I suspect that the silent majority of our readers feel similarly.

The focus of the industry itself has changed over the years, from being primarily Macintosh oriented, to being Mac and iPod oriented, to being Mac, iPod and Windows oriented, to embracing all parts of the digital lifestyle and business where Macs may be concerned. And we can all either evolve along with it, die, or specialize ourselves to the point of irrelevance.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but at the risk of repeating myself, as I said before, you have the ability not to read headlines on this site you don't find of personal interest to you, and I strongly recommend you exercise that ability. I think your strident tone and defaming of Vista-related news as "drivel" is totally out of proportion to the imagined offense.

Your mileage, as in all things, may vary.
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18. Jan 30, 2007 12:44 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
Re: Gates: Vista key to multimedia computing era
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What the heck does any of this have to do with Macs? I can read this drivel a million other places on the web, please don't give it recognition here.

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...Is it really that much of an imposition for you not to click on the headline if the content doesn't interest you?...

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Maybe s(he) thought that the headline refered to an activation key for a pirated version of Vista and felt cheated?

Keep up the good work Peter! I like getting a lot of my tech news in one spot and do my best avoid scouring the web for niche blogs. Macworld.com doesn't represent my interests 100% to the letter, but it's close enough to make it my first stop when I look for tech news.
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19. Jan 30, 2007 12:44 PM in response to: Nobody
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MacCentral/MacWorld WAS the right fit for me in the past, but yes I will be looking elsewhere for Mac-centric news now.

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"Sha-na-na-na, sha-na-na-na, hey-hey-hey, GOODBYE!!!" -jmay, 02/17/05
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20. Jan 30, 2007 12:45 PM in response to: CSHander
Re: Gates: Vista key to multimedia computing era
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Nice revision of Windows history. IE didn't ship with Windows 95. It was part of the Plus pack that you had to pay an extra 30 dollars for.

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Well Billy Boy will say anything to hype up MS. Heck, he's even claiming Vista to be the most secure OS of all. It doesn't matter to Billy Boy that he is spouting hogwash as long as the gullible consumer believes him
and buys Vista.
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21. Jan 30, 2007 12:57 PM in response to: jhawk95
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NetScape? Once again, that's late to the game. Tim Berners-Lee on a Next computer created the World Wide Web which gave NetScape a place to browse. But the Internet was quite well established by then. The Federal Government created the Internet to give researchers and academics a way to communicate quickly, and which was nuclear attack-proof. Thank Congress and the Pentagon for the Internet.

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But wait a minute, I thought Al gore invented the Internet. He said he did. "And during my time in the Congress, I took the initiative of creating the Internet."

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Well, if you mean physically, no, he didn't. If you mean legislatively, then yes, he did take the lead in making the Internet more commerce-friendly, and less of a tech company/edu/gov - only playground.
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22. Jan 30, 2007 1:17 PM in response to: nelson92
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Well Billy Boy will say anything to hype up MS. Heck, he's even claiming Vista to be the most secure OS of all. It doesn't matter to Billy Boy that he is spouting hogwash as long as the gullible consumer believes him and buys Vista.

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The actual quote is;

"dramatically more secure than any other operating system released"

from this article;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6313981.stm
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23. Jan 30, 2007 1:37 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
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Macworld isn't your own little golf club with a restricted membership roster. Many of our readers benefit from news coverage that, while not directly related to Apple or the Macintosh, still has a bearing on the Mac experience. And I can't think of a bigger example than that than the release of a new consumer operating system from Microsoft.

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In addition to that, I also enjoy reading the reactions and opinions of the forum members here on both Apple and general technology news. It helps to provide perspective in comparison to what other sites and publications are reporting. And admit it, sometimes it's just downright entertaining!

Now especially that the Mac OS as well as other Apple products are more high profile than ever, the release of Vista, a competing OS, and the news surrounding it certainly does have an impact on both Apple Inc. and Mac users in general.

Personally, I enjoy reading all kinds of technology news, not just what's directly Apple or Mac related. Apple is now more than ever competing within a larger technology market, so such news is highly relevant.

A.
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24. Jan 30, 2007 1:48 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
Economy of Effort
Actually, Peter, I am surprised you even addressed this complaint. Is it worth your energy?
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25. Jan 30, 2007 1:51 PM in response to: Schneb
Re: Economy of Effort
Schneb -- most of the time, no, it isn't worth the effort. But I had a few spare moments today, and for some reason, the exasperated tone ... How dare you post something I don't want to read ... just really rubbed me the wrong way.
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26. Jan 30, 2007 1:53 PM in response to: Nobody
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What the heck does any of this have to do with Macs? I can read this drivel a million other places on the web, please don't give it recognition here.

- John

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You may live in an area that has no Windows computers, but for the rest of us we have to live with these things, good or bad. I know that for school I'll have to run Vista starting in the fall as well as MS Office 2007. But being in school taking computer courses I get my copies of MS Windows for free. So I use the software, but at no additional software costs.

I attended a MS Launch 2007 event here in Omaha. Here they went all the way back to Windows 1.0. The greatest thing of early Windows was the MineSweeper game introduced in Windows 2.0. Because I will be using Vista & Office 207 on my Intel MacPro I got to see Windows Vista crash only 3 or 4 times in the 3 hour program. The high point was when they passed out copies of MS Office 2007. That means $0 from me to MS.

I may prefer to use my Mac, but for many reasons I also have to run Windows. Many other people are in the same position. Those that do not use the Mac will see it on the Windows sites. By having this information hare we can keep as current as we need to be & not have to spend time with all of the other Windows stuff.

At least you didn't say that this ws old news. I attended my MS event on Jan 18, 2007. So if I want to be negative, I should then say that this is old news. I just glad that I didn't have to leave my default window on my Mac to find out that Windows Vista & MS Office 2007 are now official.

Bill the TaxMan
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27. Jan 30, 2007 1:56 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Gates: Vista key to multimedia computing era
Wow! This BG guy has rediscovered multimedia. Amazing!
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28. Jan 30, 2007 2:10 PM in response to: jhawk95
Re: What about Al gore?
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NetScape? Once again, that's late to the game. Tim Berners-Lee on a Next computer created the World Wide Web which gave NetScape a place to browse. But the Internet was quite well established by then. The Federal Government created the Internet to give researchers and academics a way to communicate quickly, and which was nuclear attack-proof. Thank Congress and the Pentagon for the Internet.

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But wait a minute, I thought Al gore invented the Internet. He said he did. "And during my time in the Congress, I took the initiative of creating the Internet."

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And to think that we have the privilege to have him on Apple's board. We also had the president of Intuit on Apple's board when he canceled the professional version of TurboTax for the Mac as well as was planning while there to cancel the Mac version of Quicken.

I wonder how much better Apple would be without either of them?

thanking the Anti-Apple Apple board members,
Bill the TaxMan
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heisetax
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29. Jan 30, 2007 2:44 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
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Schneb -- most of the time, no, it isn't worth the effort. But I had a few spare moments today, and for some reason, the exasperated tone ... How dare you post something I don't want to read ... just really rubbed me the wrong way.

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If MacWorld only wrote articles that interested me, it would have trouble having enough readers to keep it in existance. There needs to be articles on more than the PPC Mac, Intel Mac, iPod orother Mac items. We need to know about all of the great 3rd party hardware &/or software. Also we need to know what isn't so great

I appreciate all of the news that you & MacWorld report on. As I said in another post, this is the default address on both my FireFox & Safari browsers. As you say, "if the article does not interst you, don't open it up."

Keep up the good work,

Bill the TaxMan
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