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7 Replies Last post: May 30, 2007 9:47 AM by hayesk  
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May 29, 2007 4:30 PM

Palm to launch new mobile device

When Palm launches its new type of handset on Wednesday, it could be the industry's first Linux-based smartphone. more
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Click to view tmedia1's profile Member 362 posts since
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1. May 29, 2007 7:48 PM in response to: MW Forums
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This is welcome news. I know people have been berating Palm for being slow to update their Treo line (and I would love to see a newer device), but at the same time, I love my new Palm 755P (couldn't wait for v.2 of the iPhone), it's hands down better IMHO than any Blackberry or MotoQ. It's an amazing pda/phone and I'm running all the my favorite Palm apps, something neither BB or MotoQ can do. And it's fast on Sprint EVDO, also has Google Maps, which works amazing well for a mobile device.

Now you can all flame me for not waiting for the iPhone...
Click to view k2director's profile New Member 63 posts since
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2. May 29, 2007 7:50 PM in response to: MW Forums
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Well, look at this. Both Palm and Microsoft are conveniently making new product announcements at this conference, hoping to take away from the iPhone's thunder. I wonder if Jobs has anything iPhone-related to counter with, or if he'll wait until the iPhone's launch event in June.

Regardless, I look forward to the spectacle of Palm and MIcrosoft pretending that they have products just around the corner that will make the iPhone look dated. There will be a lot of flash and promises in their presentations, but we'll see what those products look like when they actually ship (who knows when).
Click to view wnurse's profile New Member 88 posts since
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3. May 29, 2007 9:10 PM in response to: k2director
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Well, look at this. Both Palm and Microsoft are conveniently making new product announcements at this conference, hoping to take away from the iPhone's thunder. I wonder if Jobs has anything iPhone-related to counter with, or if he'll wait until the iPhone's launch event in June.

Regardless, I look forward to the spectacle of Palm and MIcrosoft pretending that they have products just around the corner that will make the iPhone look dated. There will be a lot of flash and promises in their presentations, but we'll see what those products look like when they actually ship (who knows when).

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Your post makes no sense.. of course they have products soon to be released!!!.. all palm does is make PDA's.. what do you suppose they would have around the corner?.. a microwave oven?. As to MS, are they supposed to close shop and never release a PDA again cause of the iphone?. Are you like 7 years or something and just wanted to post to appear smart to your friends?.
Click to view k2director's profile New Member 63 posts since
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4. May 30, 2007 12:30 AM in response to: wnurse
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Your post makes no sense.. of course they have products soon to be released!!!.. all palm does is make PDA's.. what do you suppose they would have around the corner?.. a microwave oven?. As to MS, are they supposed to close shop and never release a PDA again cause of the iphone?. Are you like 7 years or something and just wanted to post to appear smart to your friends?.

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Wnurse,
My point, which apparently was a little too subtle for you, was that Microsoft and Palm would both use this particular conference to try to take away some of the iPhone's considerable momentum as it leads up to launch, and that their "revolutionary" announcements at said conference show how desperate they are to chip away at the iPhone.

The conference isn't normally the sort of venue where "revolutionary" new products are introduced, get it? And yet, Microsoft and Palm are both announcing "revolutionary" products this year, which appear to be in the same general product category as the iPhone, or have elements that make the iPhone unique, on the eve of the iPhone's launch.

I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think Microsoft and Palm are acting now because they have real products that are in the pipeline, and it's simply time to unveil them as they move towards a real ship date (which is what you imply). I think that whatever Microsoft and Palm announce will be far away from launching, and that there's really no particularly good reason to announce them now, EXCEPT that it's their last high profile opportunity to do so before the iPhone actually ships, and because they can get away with making "strategic" yet very vague statements about their intentions, which they wouldn't be able to do so easily if they simply called a press conference on their own to announce a genuine new product.

It's a way of sabotaging the iPhone launch. On the eve of that launch, in front of a big portion of the industry's leadership, Palm and Microsoft are going to try to make the iPhone look like it's no big deal. That's all these announcements are about. They're purely defensive. But in the end, I'm betting that most of what Palm and MS present will be smoke-and-mirror effects, versus a real product that Apple will be shipping to customers in a few weeks time. We'll see.
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5. May 30, 2007 1:34 AM in response to: k2director
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Well, look at this. Both Palm and Microsoft are conveniently making new product announcements at this conference, hoping to take away from the iPhone's thunder. I wonder if Jobs has anything iPhone-related to counter with, or if he'll wait until the iPhone's launch event in June.

Regardless, I look forward to the spectacle of Palm and MIcrosoft pretending that they have products just around the corner that will make the iPhone look dated. There will be a lot of flash and promises in their presentations, but we'll see what those products look like when they actually ship (who knows when).

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What juvenile rubbish.
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6. May 30, 2007 8:52 AM in response to: k2director
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Your post makes no sense.. of course they have products soon to be released!!!.. all palm does is make PDA's.. what do you suppose they would have around the corner?.. a microwave oven?. As to MS, are they supposed to close shop and never release a PDA again cause of the iphone?. Are you like 7 years or something and just wanted to post to appear smart to your friends?.

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Wnurse,
My point, which apparently was a little too subtle for you, was that Microsoft and Palm would both use this particular conference to try to take away some of the iPhone's considerable momentum as it leads up to launch, and that their "revolutionary" announcements at said conference show how desperate they are to chip away at the iPhone.

The conference isn't normally the sort of venue where "revolutionary" new products are introduced, get it? And yet, Microsoft and Palm are both announcing "revolutionary" products this year, which appear to be in the same general product category as the iPhone, or have elements that make the iPhone unique, on the eve of the iPhone's launch.

I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think Microsoft and Palm are acting now because they have real products that are in the pipeline, and it's simply time to unveil them as they move towards a real ship date (which is what you imply). I think that whatever Microsoft and Palm announce will be far away from launching, and that there's really no particularly good reason to announce them now, EXCEPT that it's their last high profile opportunity to do so before the iPhone actually ships, and because they can get away with making "strategic" yet very vague statements about their intentions, which they wouldn't be able to do so easily if they simply called a press conference on their own to announce a genuine new product.

It's a way of sabotaging the iPhone launch. On the eve of that launch, in front of a big portion of the industry's leadership, Palm and Microsoft are going to try to make the iPhone look like it's no big deal. That's all these announcements are about. They're purely defensive. But in the end, I'm betting that most of what Palm and MS present will be smoke-and-mirror effects, versus a real product that Apple will be shipping to customers in a few weeks time. We'll see.

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Just remember that the still to be launched in the future, iPhone, has been an announced for future shipment product for close to 6 months now. Why are you giving one set of rules for Apple & another set for Palm? Just remember that Palm has shipped many products in the past. Apple has yet to ship its first cell phone. Apple once had a PDA, but the Palm stopped that, even though we all think of Steve Jobs as the Apple PDA killer!

Apple is just aiming at the richer group of cell phone users. Palm is trying to take care of all of them. MS is just trying to sell something.

I just want a new Palm PDA only device. A PDA lasts for 5-10 years. A cell phone lasts only a year or two for most users. I don't see why one would want to join items with such different life spans. But if you want an iPhone PDA that is rumored to need a cell phone connection for many or all of its features to be useful. Give me separate, you can have combined.

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7. May 30, 2007 9:47 AM in response to: heisetax
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Apple once had a PDA, but the Palm stopped that, even though we all think of Steve Jobs as the Apple PDA killer!

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Newton sales were increasing and just starting to turn a profit when Steve killed it. It had nothing to do with Palm.

Palm's advantage was it's sync software and it's size - both are things Apple could have done.