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Click to view lwdesign's profile Member 462 posts since
Sep 28, 2005
15. Jun 5, 2007 2:12 PM in response to: MacTel
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
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This HTC Touch looks pretty cool. I love HTC PDA phones and honestly would get one over an iPhone. The iPhone isn't appealing to me since I'm all about getting work done. I'm not interested so much into video, pictures, and music on my phones. Rather, I'm interested in email, vpn, and using the phone as a wireless access point for my laptop (No Palm Foleo or Fooey thank you!).

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I think you may have lost sight of what the iPhone is and does. Take a look at Steve Job's keynote address when the iPhone was announced and be prepared to be amazed all over again. I viewed it last night and was blown away, especially when I compare what it does with this Windows Mobile-running wanna be. Here's the link to the keynote:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
Click to view Deromax's profile New Member 72 posts since
Aug 30, 2004
16. Jun 5, 2007 2:24 PM in response to: Steve_S
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Apple apparently doesn't have a patent on touch screen

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Or maybe they have, and will be starting to sue them later.
Click to view MacTechAspen's profile Member 270 posts since
Oct 15, 2004
17. Jun 5, 2007 4:06 PM in response to: bigpics
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
I didn't use the word "hobbled" by accident. Ok, it was a bad pun, but it does look like something that is purposely disabled in order to perform at all (i.e. it has its legs tied together).

Windows on a phone requires more than a touch here and there, so to make it work as a touch interface my guess is that they removed many features.

I too liked using the thumb in the demo, but they just used it to scroll through lists, and there is no reason to believe you can't do the same on the iPhone.

I have no problem with someone coming up with something even cooler than the iPhone, competition is a wonderful thing. But this demo sure didn't give me any indication this is even a functional device, much less an iPhone killer.
Click to view HumanJHawkins's profile Member 538 posts since
Jan 22, 2003
18. Jun 5, 2007 4:57 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
Cut it some slack guys... It is pretty sweet except that when you send or recieve anything wirelessly you can only use the data three times before having to buy it.
Click to view MacTel's profile Enthusiast 1,031 posts since
Jun 6, 2005
19. Jun 5, 2007 5:21 PM in response to: lwdesign
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I think you may have lost sight of what the iPhone is and does. Take a look at Steve Job's keynote address when the iPhone was announced and be prepared to be amazed all over again. I viewed it last night and was blown away, especially when I compare what it does with this Windows Mobile-running wanna be. Here's the link to the keynote:
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/

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I have lost faith. May my faith be restored in Steve come June 29th.

No, I understand what the iPhone does and is, but it is kind of like 1984 when the Macs came out. They were neat and shifted the paradigm from CLI to GUI but they lacked many of the business tools that actually allowed people to really work. Lotus123 and WordPerfect came to the Mac much later then the market needed so the market mostly ignored Macs as toys.

When the iPhone comes out people like me will mostly ignore it as a toy if it doesn't at least address the Microsoft Exchange compatibility issue. For entertainment nothing appears to beat it but I can't justify the cost for such a device without gaining some corporate benefit.
Click to view bigpics's profile Member 352 posts since
Aug 3, 2001
20. Jun 5, 2007 5:55 PM in response to: MacTechAspen
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I didn't use the word "hobbled" by accident. Ok, it was a bad pun, but it does look like something that is purposely disabled in order to perform at all (i.e. it has its legs tied together).

Windows on a phone requires more than a touch here and there, so to make it work as a touch interface my guess is that they removed many features.



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1. S'ok. I love and make bad puns by the bundle. A recent one I've been passing around is how Apple is creating a unique iCology.

2. Your point is duly noted. Just remember the market share history of Windows vs Apple OS's and H.L. Mencken's (somewhat overstated and cruel) admonition that "no one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American people" (more or less the quote anyway)

3. We all might remember we're comparing one unreleased product to a new family of vaporware products before we write any of the companies' 1st quarter '08 phone sales results....
Click to view maineguy's profile New Member 104 posts since
Feb 6, 2007
21. Jun 5, 2007 6:27 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The MOST remarkable thing about the iPhone in my mind is that it changed the industry forever (thankfully for the better) and, besides a few nobility, hasn't been touched by a consumer. That should be a college case study by itself... Think of the market scramble when it actually ships!

I think my Moto Q is lookin' kinda sad...
Click to view maineguy's profile New Member 104 posts since
Feb 6, 2007
22. Jun 5, 2007 7:14 PM in response to: MW Forums
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HTC launched the HTC Touch, a Microsoft Windows Mobile 6 device designed with one-touch screen features reminiscent of the iPhone. <a href="/news/2007/06/05/htc/index.php">more</a>


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Is it possible to be reminiscent of something that isn't here yet???
Click to view kelake's profile New Member 130 posts since
Sep 9, 2005
23. Jun 5, 2007 8:49 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
Knowing htc they have likely been working on this long before the iPhone was announced. Htc has a huge research division, a portion of which is tasked to developing new uses and refinements to the user interface. This isn't a me-too product.

Of course using a mac means that this device will never be able to integrate itself into my workflow as well as the iPhone might.
Click to view maint1's profile New Member 128 posts since
Jan 7, 2005
24. Jun 5, 2007 9:01 PM in response to: Deromax
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
there have been many Rumors site postings saying that ``Apple has patented a new type of touchscreen'' so they probably have.

They sued emachines when emachines made an iMac clone so we should expect some kind of legal movement in this matter.

That being said, China is well versed in knocking off everything from Nikes to Rolls Royces.

OH LOOK. AN IPONE AD as I'm writing this response. :-) Fitting
Click to view whitedog's profile Enthusiast 961 posts since
Aug 9, 2004
25. Jun 8, 2007 1:24 AM in response to: MW Forums
Re: HTC launches Microsoft-based iPhone rival
The website worked fine for me this evening. Perhaps they couldn't handle the traffic generated by all the free publicity from their product announcement. Still, even though I was able to see what was there, real information was scarce. They have a video/ad that is supposed to show how cool it is, but it's pretty lame.

Touch screens have been in development for years by a variety of designers - including Microsoft. Steve over-hyped the iPhone touch screen at WWDC, giving some people the notion, by emphasizing patents, that Apple had invented the technology. I've no doubt they have their own patents, but Apple is not alone in the field.

In any case, you'll note it's the headline of the Macworld article that identifies the HTC phone as an iPhone rival. The HTC website doesn't mention the iPhone. Editors like catchy headlines, but this phone is no more or less an iPhone rival than any number of other smart phones already, or soon to be, on the market.

Would HTC like to catch some of the buzz the iPhone has stirred up? No doubt. Again, they're hardly alone in this.

There are some slick phone ads making the rounds right now, but Apple's are the best, in my opinion, emphasizing the iPhone's incomparable interface, ease of use and the substance of what the iPhone can do. I have a friend who just got a new Blackberry who is drooling over the iPhone, just the same, on the strength of those ads. Nevertheless, I'm advising him to wait till the iPhone has been out awhile and had time to mature. It will only get better. Which is not something you are likely to find people saying about the FTC phone, "hobbled" as it is by Windows Mobile.


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