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Jun 12, 2007 12:20 PM

Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that all there is?

Steve Jobs' keynote featured a Leopard preview, a new version of Safari, and news about the iPhone. So how come Philip Michaels found it so underwhelming? more
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Click to view iron_chef's profile Member 314 posts since
Aug 28, 2004
1. Jun 12, 2007 3:29 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that a
when i was reading the keynote coverage live, I started selling off chunks of AAPL stock when Steve started to waste gobs of time on repeats of Jan Macworld features like the ichat stuff. I knew the keynote was getting very soft on new stuff.

boy did I dodge a 5 pt drop.

now I am looking to buy some shares on another dip...perhaps after the iphone launch.
Click to view ClarkM's profile New Member 12 posts since
May 6, 2005
2. Jun 12, 2007 3:32 PM in response to: iron_chef
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that a
No more Macworld or WWDC keynote addresses for me. Although Mr. Jobs seemingly makes an effort to make these historical events work, not only did he inherit these events from an earlier Apple era, but they ultimately go against the grain of his "think secret" mentality, in my opinion.
Click to view Jamus's profile New Member 115 posts since
Aug 27, 2004
3. Jun 12, 2007 3:37 PM in response to: Macworld.com
no hardware?
So was there no hardware releases at all? I was not sure if I missed some or not.

Sure it is a software dev conference and all, but devs need some hardware love too!
Click to view schoonerman's profile Member 292 posts since
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4. Jun 12, 2007 3:39 PM in response to: Macworld.com
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Anyone whos glimpsed at my Desktop can tell you how badly I need a feature like Stacks, and Im looking forward to the day when assorted downloads are sent off to their own space on the Dock instead of dumped in a pile on my Desktop. And Quick Look is present.

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On the machines where I regularly download, the downloads go into ~Documents/Downloads/New Downloads. And both Downloads and New Downloads have their place in the Finder sidebar. (So does the /Applications/Utilities window.) So Stacks doesn't clean up here as much as it will elsewhere (but the Stack for downloads will be very nice here).

And as to the subject (typed tongue in cheek I think--and perhaps with the song--I have the late Peggy Lee's version in iTunes--playing), well no. But did you want a 300-feature keynote?

The above sounds critical of the article, but I don't really mean it that way. The keynote was quite weak--and in that sense did deserve the headline. I wasn't there--but the video suggests that the RDF wasn't turned up very high. When John Hodgeman and the pricing dig at Microsoft get the biggest reactions, something has changed.
Click to view MGP's profile New Member 50 posts since
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5. Jun 12, 2007 3:41 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Is that all?
Yeah, I was pretty much non-plussed at the keynote. It all sounded good and I am looking forward to the upgrade, but that aside, Steve hyped it too much. Cryptic comments alluding to earth shattering things can be a 2-edged sword. This time it took the legs off of expectation. Honestly I am not sure what I was expecting, there are times I think we have really bumped into the walls of current interface design and no amount of eye candy is going to help

Leopard has some great stuff to be sure, Time Machine, New Finder, Back to My Mac & 64 bit, but to me it's like we are improving the wheel, not innovating.

Just my .02
Click to view Philip Michaels's profile Macworld Editorial 885 posts since
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6. Jun 12, 2007 3:42 PM in response to: schoonerman
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that all there is?
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But did you want a 300-feature keynote?

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Speaking solely as a guy with a Web site to fill with news articles...

Yes. Yes, I do want a 300-feature keynote.

But your point is well taken.
Click to view GeneLand's profile New Member 48 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
7. Jun 12, 2007 3:45 PM in response to: Macworld.com
No new hardware?
Just one week before the keynote Apple brought out significantly updated models of the MacBook Pro. And a couple of weeks earlier Apple updated the MacBook models. Maybe its just me but I thought these were pretty significant hardware updates that many have been waiting for. In fact, I ran out and nabbed one of the new Macbook Pros!

And don't forget the iPhone coming out in a couple of weeks.....
Click to view cweber's profile New Member 111 posts since
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8. Jun 12, 2007 3:48 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that a
It IS a developer conference after all, as was pointed out in the article. Everybody expects dramatic new hardware and/or software announcements at the keynote speech, but that's no what the conference is about. Apple rolled out updated MacBooks and MacBook Pros weeks or days before the conference, presumably to not dilute the software focus of the conference.

Let the record-setting crowd of developers get down and dirty with Apple's new stuff and surprise us with great new and improved apps down the line. Without them all this cool Apple technology is nothing. I want more than "runs well on Leopard" come October!
Cool new hardware can be announced elsewhere at another time.
Click to view mecmac's profile New Member 8 posts since
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9. Jun 12, 2007 3:49 PM in response to: Macworld.com
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I have to suspect that there were some features that - a year ago - were in the mix AND top secret. Perhaps they had to be removed from Leopard. This is not unlike Vista that had major enhancement after major enhancement removed, in favor of largely cosmetic changes.

Leopard appears to be the vicitm of this sort of overreaching too ... the changes are largely cosmetic -- it looks prettier than Tiger. Maybe that's enough. But, there was nothing announced yesterday that was in jeopardy of being copied by Microsoft when Jobs made his "top secret" comment a year ago. The iPhone caused Leopard to be delayed 6 months - that was made public, obviously ... but, what did the iPhone delay or kill that wasn't made public??
Click to view scotty321's profile New Member 50 posts since
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10. Jun 12, 2007 3:52 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that a
Yeah, Apple really slapped their Mac developers in the face this year, particularly with the FAUX announcement of software development on the iPhone. Just plain awful.
Click to view JEB's profile New Member 61 posts since
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11. Jun 12, 2007 3:53 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that all there is?
" . . . and adopting iTunes look-and-feel is a clever move."

Did anyone else get the sense from the iTunes makeover, that OSX as a whole would be similar . . . ? Well, the thought certainly crossed my mind . . .

Too bad Apple didn't hand out new iPhones to all the attendees!!! That woulda' been bold, uncanny, and just plain frigginawesome . . .

But hey, nothing like some Apple-Steamrollers getting ready to go out and make some Microsoft pancakes:

* Sweet new Finder and GUI improvements, plus cleaning our desktops, check

* Quicklook + CoverFlow (beats out whatever that Vista windows broswer eye-candy-Aero thing is), check

* Safari on Windows, *check*!!! ("Ohh, by the way, we have millions of downloads of iTunes . . . and we've got a way to get Safari to folks . . ." --> priceless)


Perhaps a "calm" WWDC, but definitely an undertone of, "This is awesome, so awesome that we at Apple a reverently at work for the masses" kind of peacefulness. Ahhhh, Apple.

GO APPLE!!! GO LEOPARD, AND ALL THAT OTHER COOL STUFF!!! GO WWDC!!!
Click to view Moof_in_Charge's profile Member 656 posts since
Jul 27, 2005
12. Jun 12, 2007 4:01 PM in response to: Macworld.com
Re: Editors' Notes Weblog: WWDC keynote: Is that all there is?
Philip,

I am fuming here. I am so upset at the depth of this article that is beyond anything reasonable.

you said : OK, Im being ridiculously unfair.

This is perhaps the understatement of the week. Developer conference is for developers only. Since when did it become a platform for announcing new hardware. In the past, Steve has used the opportunity to roll out new hardware, but unless you've been sleeping, most of the entire line of Apple hardware is now 64bit right out the door. Apple introduced Apple TV, almost all of their hardware has been upgraded, all applications have been touched in some ways and Apple is in the midst of releasing what is the single biggest product launch since iPod with far more implications than any other product launch in its history (except the Mac). Unlike the iPod's introduction, there is this overwhelming amount of expectation that is built in to the iPhone.

Much to your chagrin, Apple cant go out and build a new OS every year, this was a major release for them in the works for over 2 years. I am sorry your short attention disorder was not able to be stimulated by the keynote but I assure you, for the rest of the folks who went there to "LEARN" about the Apple's new OS, the experience was vastly different and rewarding. Perhaps as a developer (the targeted audience) you would have seen it differently.

I think your entire article was unnecessary and a burden.

I am sorry I read it.
Click to view JEB's profile New Member 61 posts since
Feb 11, 2005
13. Jun 12, 2007 4:01 PM in response to: cweber
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It IS a developer conference after all . . . Let the record-setting crowd of developers get down and dirty with Apple's new stuff and surprise us with great new and improved apps down the line . . .
Cool new hardware can be announced elsewhere at another time.

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* I AGREEEEEEE * Core Animation, 64-bit apps, Spotlight search across multiple volumes . . . etc . . . I really didn't mind hearing about features again, or seeing them in a new presentation. But, yes, the software focus here is positive, and moreso, minus ditractions of hardware . . .

In the big picture: Apple definitely isn't just sitting on their @sses . . . take a step back, sit and cross thyne legs, have a few soothing breaths, and take it all innnnnn . . . ahhhhh . . .

Then allow yourself the space to think: frigginawesome


GO APPLE!!! GO DEVELOPERS!!! GO WWDC!!!
Click to view tgibbons242's profile New Member 1 posts since
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14. Jun 12, 2007 4:01 PM in response to: Macworld.com
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Everyone is losing it about the lack of new things in Leopard. Well here's a huge one... What about iLife '07?!?!??!
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