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Jul 16, 2007 12:10 PM

Gears of War, Unreal Tournament 3 are Mac-bound

Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 are both Mac-bound, says Epic Games' Mark Rein. more
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1. Jul 16, 2007 3:36 PM in response to: MW Forums
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Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 are both Mac-bound, says Epic Games' Mark Rein. <a href="/news/2007/07/16/gearsofwar/index.php">more</a>


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Then, who needs an XBOX 360, unless you're a Halo fan and can't wait another five years hoping Halo 2 might make it?

This is great news! Guess I better start saving up for a Mac Pro.

Eric

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2. Jul 16, 2007 3:39 PM in response to: MW Forums
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What's curious is another announcement of theirs, that Unreal Engine 3 will include support for Microsoft's Games for Windows - LIVE service. They've announced that the upcoming Windows version of Gears of War will be using it, and I'm afraid that the Windows version of UT3 might also be a good candidate.

So I wonder if that will mean no cross-platform multiplayer between Mac and Windows copies of Gears of War or UT3. For me, that alone would make the Mac version of UT3 quite useless -- there already aren't quite enough servers and players of UT2004, let alone if we were limited to a pool of fellow Mac users only.
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3. Jul 16, 2007 3:39 PM in response to: leicaman
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This is great news! Guess I better start saving up for a Mac Pro.

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It's never too soon.

I'm going to be curious to see what the system requirements for these games are. One thing I can tell you for certain, in case you were curious -- these games WON'T be Cider conversions -- these are full-on Mac ports, just like past Unreal Engine games have been.
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4. Jul 16, 2007 3:48 PM in response to: MW Forums
Wooooohoooo! I'm in!
I buy a bunch of PC games to play on my Intel Mac but always hope for Mac versions. Support the Mac game market!
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5. Jul 16, 2007 4:02 PM in response to: MW Forums
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This is amazing news.
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6. Jul 16, 2007 4:28 PM in response to: MW Forums
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Gears of War has been, to date, an Xbox 360 exclusive. In the interview, after Keighley asked Rein if he had any misgivings about Epics decision to bring that game to Sonys PlayStation 3, a competing platform, Rein emphasized Epics position as an independent developer of game technology.

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That could use a little clearer writing. The way it's written makes it sound like Epic is bringing Gears to the PS3 as well, which they are not.
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7. Jul 16, 2007 4:39 PM in response to: MW Forums
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Hi
Hopefully they get the multiplayer bugs out of GoW by than. Multiplayer has gone downward IMHO.

It's a fun game and has a number of great features not found in any other game I've played but connection issues, horribly unforgiving cheats ( glitches ), and usually long wait times for rooms to fill.

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8. Jul 16, 2007 6:09 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
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"these games WON'T be Cider conversions"

Wow great news! I use 2 Intel Macs, but I feel that native ports are better than Cider. I guess the next big question is for my PowerPC friends... will there be a PPC version? I guess that will become less frequent as PPC's aren't being updated (although the faster G5's are still good machines for gaming).
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9. Jul 16, 2007 6:14 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
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One thing I can tell you for certain, in case you were curious -- these games WON'T be Cider conversions -- these are full-on Mac ports, just like past Unreal Engine games have been.

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Great news, Peter!
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10. Jul 16, 2007 8:14 PM in response to: Peter Cohen
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I'm going to be curious to see what the system requirements for these games are. One thing I can tell you for certain, in case you were curious -- these games WON'T be Cider conversions -- these are full-on Mac ports, just like past Unreal Engine games have been.

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Gears of War is most certainly going to take a hefty computer, and UT3 as well. I was sure they wouldn't be Cider games since the UT3 engine is being ported. That is so cool. As much as I like Quake, UT 2004 was one of my favorites for that genre of game. Much more creative weapons, vehicles and maps. I sure hope UT3 doesn't take too much longer to do than the PC verison. Especially if there's cross-platform gaming. If they're smart, they'll make that possible to maximize Mac sales.

But games isn't the only reason to get a Mac Pro. After using CS3 on a Mac Pro at work, my dual 2Ghz G5 (2003) is nice and speedy, but not nearly as fast. And if Doom 3 and Quake 4 taxes is, these games no doubt would choke it. Hopefully Quake Wars will be out soon to tide us over, eh?

Eric

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11. Jul 17, 2007 5:52 AM in response to: MW Forums
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That is really great news... unfortunately there is no mac out there which can run those games satisfactorily. 1900 xt barely makes the grade, and that is an "addtional" option over the pathetic default card (shamfeful to even offer it on a high end machine). Until Apple pushes Nvidia/ATI to write drivers for their latest and greatest videocards (or write it themselves) it is a waste of money to buy a mac for gaming. That is especially true for those who want to use those nice ACD displays with resolutions of 1920X1200 and above.

I really really want to get a mac pro but I cannot justify spending so much money and not even know if/when I can get current GPU hardware on it.
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12. Jul 17, 2007 8:52 AM in response to: Jamovich
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...unfortunately there is no mac out there which can run those games satisfactorily... That is especially true for those who want to use those nice ACD displays with resolutions of 1920X1200 and above.

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Clearly nobody here can honestly say if your comments are at all accurate with respect to the UT3 engine, since it hasn't been released yet in any form... but somehow, I doubt that you can make those comments with any kind of authority either. That said, I must assume that you're actually referring to existing games -- to which I'd have to respond that your comments are entirely a matter of opinion, friend. I bought the Windows version of UT2004, (among other games) so that I could play against my PC touting friends in LAN parties, and I don't have a Mac Pro -- only a (ahem!) lowly 24" iMac -- but my iMac has played every PC game I've thrown at it, at native resolution, with beautiful performance... in my opinion.

In fact, I think the most telling indicator was when my friends and I all ran PC Pitstop against our machines, and mine turned out to be the fastest machine in the bunch. What that tells me is that majority of people who actually play these computer games don't usually buy the latest/greatest/fastest/whiz-bangy-est computer hardware on the market -- and frankly, I'm sure that our good friends at Epic are very aware of this.

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13. Jul 17, 2007 9:43 AM in response to: zarmanto
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"What that tells me is that majority of people who actually play these computer games don't usually buy the latest/greatest/fastest/whiz-bangy-est computer hardware on the market"

Yes I hear you there, I'm not gamer, my compuer was never bought for games. I have a MacBook pro (dual 2.33ghz, 2gb RAM, 256mb graphics card)... I must say it's a lot better than most of my fried's clunky gaming machines that they keep promising me they'll soup up one day.

Also... if no Intel Mac is powerful enough, then how can a PC be powerful enough? Think for a minute buddy... I'm sure an iMac let alone an 8-core Mac Pro could run any games that an Xbox 360 can... (I must note Apple is the only brand with Clovertowns clocked at 3ghz, so no PC maker has a faster Xeon setup).
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14. Jul 17, 2007 3:17 PM in response to: djgamble
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Some people claim that the GPUs in Macs aren't state of the art. But that's never bothered me. Of course, it helps to have something really fast. I wouldn't worry about Mac Pros being able to handle these games. Maybe I can't crank it up to the highest resolution, or 8X anti-aliasing or whatever. But I've found my dual 2GHz G5 with the X800 XT card to be plenty fast for me with the likes of Quake IV, Doom 3 and COD 2.

Still, I'm thinking it's soon going to be time to get an Intel Mac of some sort. Photoshop CS3 is so much faster on my Mac Pro at work (where I won't be playing Gears of War most likely), that I'm feeling the need for that upgrade.

Eric

There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence. - Will Rogers

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