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10 Replies Last post: Aug 22, 2007 5:01 AM by boult  
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Aug 21, 2007 6:40 AM

Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player 9

Adobe upgrade for its Flash Player, released on Monday, adds support for one of the latest video encoding standards as well as new audio support. more
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Click to view cseeman's profile New Member 133 posts since
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1. Aug 21, 2007 12:05 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player 9
I take it this will mean Windows users who have Flash Player (beta or next release) will now be able to play H.264 encodes with Flash if they don't have Quicktime 7 installed.

What's not yet clear to me is that will there be anything one needs to do on embedding H.264 on the web that will allow Flash Player to see the H.264 file. Will the player simply see it, will the user need to click on a "use Flash to play H.264" button in their player preferences, or will there be something more complex involved for either the player/user or the encoder/webmaster?
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2. Aug 21, 2007 1:35 PM in response to: cseeman
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player 9
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I take it this will mean Windows users who have Flash Player (beta or next release) will now be able to play H.264 encodes with Flash if they don't have Quicktime 7 installed.

What's not yet clear to me is that will there be anything one needs to do on embedding H.264 on the web that will allow Flash Player to see the H.264 file. Will the player simply see it, will the user need to click on a "use Flash to play H.264" button in their player preferences, or will there be something more complex involved for either the player/user or the encoder/webmaster?

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you are confusing a file type with an encoding. the flash player probably won't be able to play just any H.264 encoded files. the video probably will still be an FLV file encoded with H.264
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
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3. Aug 21, 2007 1:52 PM in response to: MW Forums
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
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Adobe upgrade for its Flash Player, released on Monday, adds support for one of the latest video encoding standards as well as new audio support. <a href="/news/2007/08/21/moviestar/index.php">more</a>


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How about a correction to this story... 6:40AM as in "Adobe ANNOUNCES" instead of "released"...

Because it's 1:45PM EST... AND STILL NOT RELEASED!

This kind of thing happens so often here and at many websites. You announce something has been released and then we all wait 30-60 days for the ACTUAL RELEASE! That's just simply bad journalism. MacWorld needs to stop using press releases as if they are facts if MacWorld wishes to be a respected Mac news site. Sorry, but when the truth hurts, yep, it hurts. No Flashplayer update, yet...
Click to view boult's profile New Member 5 posts since
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4. Aug 21, 2007 2:52 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
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Adobe upgrade for its Flash Player, released on Monday, adds support for one of the latest video encoding standards as well as new audio support. <a href="/news/2007/08/21/moviestar/index.php">more</a>


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How about a correction to this story... 6:40AM as in "Adobe ANNOUNCES" instead of "released"...

Because it's 1:45PM EST... AND STILL NOT RELEASED!

This kind of thing happens so often here and at many websites. You announce something has been released and then we all wait 30-60 days for the ACTUAL RELEASE! That's just simply bad journalism. MacWorld needs to stop using press releases as if they are facts if MacWorld wishes to be a respected Mac news site. Sorry, but when the truth hurts, yep, it hurts. No Flashplayer update, yet...

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DID YOU RTFA?
Click to view Nobody's profile New Member 58,347 posts since
Oct 18, 2007
5. Aug 21, 2007 3:23 PM in response to: boult
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
Not sure what RTFA means.

I read "Adobe Systemss upgrade for its Flash Player, released on Tuesday, adds support for one of the latest video encoding standards as well as new audio support."

NOPE, STILL NOT RELEASED (it'll soon be 12 hours now since the story was written exactly that way).

What language do you speak or read? Obviously, not even the first line of the story.

Journalists should not write lines they don't know are true or clearly know are false. That's my point.
Sure it'll be released, eventually. That's not the point.

So STFU DH, and enjoy your "later today." whenever that "eventually" happens. :-)


PS: All they had to do was use the word "ANNOUNCED" instead of "RELEASED" (and in the past tense no less! HAHA!)
Yes, it IS a BIG DIFFERENCE.
Click to view Jamus's profile New Member 115 posts since
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6. Aug 21, 2007 3:22 PM in response to: MW Forums
Flash vs Silverlight
Based on what I know so far, I would prefer Flash to Silverlight any day.

This new "we love all platforms" Microsoft does not seem to be real.
Click to view cseeman's profile New Member 133 posts since
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7. Aug 21, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: fribhey
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player 9
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you are confusing a file type with an encoding. the flash player probably won't be able to play just any H.264 encoded files. the video probably will still be an FLV file encoded with H.264

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That's absolutely NOT the case. I think you should read the engineer's comments in the link in the story. The Flash Player WILL be able to play various H.264 files including mp4 and those specific to iTunes/iPod. There's nothing to imply that H.264 will have to be wrapped in SWF at all in my read of it.
Click to view cseeman's profile New Member 133 posts since
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8. Aug 21, 2007 3:53 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
The Flash Player Beta will be released TODAY. It's a beta but it'll be out today.
Click to view Daren_Mitchell's profile New Member 78 posts since
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9. Aug 21, 2007 4:58 PM in response to: Nobody
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
RTFA = Read The F@cking Article
FTA = From The Article
FTW = For The Win
Click to view boult's profile New Member 5 posts since
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10. Aug 22, 2007 5:01 AM in response to: Nobody
Re: Adobe releases Moviestar beta for Flash Player
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Not sure what RTFA means.

I read "Adobe Systemss upgrade for its Flash Player, released on Tuesday, adds support for one of the latest video encoding standards as well as new audio support."

NOPE, STILL NOT RELEASED (it'll soon be 12 hours now since the story was written exactly that way).

What language do you speak or read? Obviously, not even the first line of the story.

Journalists should not write lines they don't know are true or clearly know are false. That's my point.
Sure it'll be released, eventually. That's not the point.

So STFU DH, and enjoy your "later today." whenever that "eventually" happens. :-)


PS: All they had to do was use the word "ANNOUNCED" instead of "RELEASED" (and in the past tense no less! HAHA!)
Yes, it IS a BIG DIFFERENCE.

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RTFA = Read the frakking article!

in second paragraph it said;

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The upgrade, called Moviestar, applies to Adobes latest Flash Player, version 9. A beta of the upgrade will be available for download later in the day, with a final version to be ready in the third quarter, Adobe said.

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They just had to update their website to offer the download... so it is out ALREADY!

They already released as in private beta now it is public beta. hence the reason that Apple made deal with YouTube hmm?