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Oct 12, 2007 6:10 AM

Macworld Video: iPhone hacks

Now that hackers are thiiiiiis close to bringing third-party apps back to the iPhone I thought I'd give those with unhacked phones a taste of what they've been missing. more
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1. Oct 12, 2007 9:42 AM in response to: MW Forums
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Here's a piece of trivia you overlooked, perhaps someone might find it useful:

http://www.apple.com/webapps/

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2. Oct 12, 2007 10:33 AM in response to: Craig_A
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Trivial indeed....
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3. Oct 12, 2007 12:24 PM in response to: MW Forums
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This is utter crap. So now you show people how to illegally use an iPhone so it can bricked via the next update? Not even a disclaimer that what your showing people is a violation of the EULA and voids the warranty? I hope you're found accountable for helping people ruin their iPhones. And all those programs you showed were crap that would run fine if properly programmed the correct way Apple has said to develop programs for the iPhone. Macworld, your lack of responsibility is pathetic.
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4. Oct 12, 2007 12:37 PM in response to: BruisedApple
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You care to cite the law anyone breaks by installing third-party apps onto their phone? BA, EULAs are not the word of law.

And as you've never installed any of these apps, how exactly would you know about the quality of their programming?

Your anger at stepping away from Apple's suggested path is noted, but beyond that you're woefully ill-informed. Third-party apps do not ruin iPhones.
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5. Oct 12, 2007 12:38 PM in response to: MW Forums
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I thought I'd give those with unhacked phones a taste of what they've been missing.

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Isn't this the same message used by snake oil salesmen peddling a worthless elixer to rubes?
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6. Oct 12, 2007 12:40 PM in response to: Chris Breen
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Trivial indeed....

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They are on par with what a lot of other cell phones offer - and although I don't own an iPhone yet, I'm not sure I would turn my nose up at ANY indie effort to build on the Next Cool Thing.

---Ken (we were all starving geeks once) Franklin
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7. Oct 12, 2007 12:40 PM in response to: edmetric
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As well as preachers, politicians, and physicians.
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8. Oct 12, 2007 12:43 PM in response to: Chris Breen
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As well as preachers, politicians, and physicians.

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Not ALL physicians are Snake oil salesmen. I would venture to guess that preachers and politicians have some worthwhile folks, as well.

Come on, Chris. You are usually not this thin-skinned, and usually not this quick to stereotype. Do you need a hug? Where's the Chris that we trust and admire?

---Ken (civility has its value) Franklin, MD
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9. Oct 12, 2007 12:45 PM in response to: MW Forums
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You know. If people spent time and wrote code the way that Apple requests them to, Hacker's wouldn't HAVE to go back after every Apple update and refigure out how to get these non-conforming programs to work.

A majority of the things you were doing are avilabale on the web.

Let me think "Use web version and have workable iPhone".. pause for dramatic effect.. "Or hack my phone and wait for the next update from Apple that will brick my phone and render it completely useless, turning it into a $400 paperweight".

I think i'll go with the first one, thank you very much.
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10. Oct 12, 2007 12:45 PM in response to: Chris Breen
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EULAs are not the word of law.

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You're right. They are the words of men. A digital handshake as it were.
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11. Oct 12, 2007 12:45 PM in response to: Ken_Franklin
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Sorry, Ken, you missed the point. I meant that ANYONE -- well intentioned and not so -- can suggest that they have a point of view worth considering. To suggest that only snake oil salesman offer a peek behind the curtain is silly.
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12. Oct 12, 2007 12:48 PM in response to: Chris Breen
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Sorry, Ken, you missed the point. I meant that ANYONE -- well intentioned and not so -- can suggest that they have a point of view worth considering. To suggest that only snake oil salesman offer a peak behind the curtain is silly.

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Understood - once again, an example of why we ALL (including myself) need to pause and take a deep breath before writing Forum responses, be they hackers, MacWorld editors, doctors, et al.

--Ken (see comment about civility) Franklin
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13. Oct 12, 2007 12:50 PM in response to: AGENice
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Let me think "Use web version and have workable iPhone".. pause for dramatic effect.. "Or hack my phone and wait for the next update from Apple that will brick my phone and render it completely useless, turning it into a $400 paperweight".

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How soon we forget. The installation of third-party apps DID NOT BRICK iPhones. This was caused by unlocking iPhones, which is a completely different issue (and one I intentionally stayed away from).

For the most part, I composed this video to answer the question "Why would anyone want to install third-party apps on their iPhone?" A web-application is not going to customize the appearance of your iPhone, it won't allow you to move greater quantities of data off your iPhone, it won't allow you to install custom ringtones on your iPhone...etc. Web apps have their place but they have their limits -- requiring that you're connected to the web being the primary one.
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14. Oct 12, 2007 12:53 PM in response to: MW Forums
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I've been watching the 3rd-party app hacking with a lot of interest. At this point its more of a 'proof-of-concept' thing than something I'm going to actually install. Maybe I'll change my mind after Leopard comes out and we hopefully get Apple provided features like syncing notes & to-do's.

More than anything though it kinda shows how far Apple HASN'T gone with this amazing piece of technology. There are so many different apps that were created that add great functionality and help the iPhone more closely rival the feature set found in many of the standard smartphones out there. Webapps just don't cut it. EDGE isn't as horrible as I thought but it's still too slow to make me want to run to these sites that require reloading a detailed page ... especially when a similar 'program' can be permanently installed.

While so far I have only been watching from a distance I hope the 3rd-party hacking continues no matter what obstacles Apple puts in their way. There's obviously so much more the iPhone can do to let it be crippled for political reasons or corporate deals. As an Apple loyalist I would appreciate it if the folks in Cupertino remember who they are and who they represent in the Tech world.

my 2 cents
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