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Feb 27, 2008 10:24 AM

Apple to hold special iPhone SDK event next week

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Click to view canicula's profile New Member 4 posts since
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1. Feb 27, 2008 11:25 AM in response to: Macworld
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“some exciting new enterprise features,”

I hope it's a Blackberry client!

Ian
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2. Feb 27, 2008 1:41 PM in response to: canicula
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I pray Apple has developed the ability to synch To Dos from its own applications (Mail, iCal) with the iPhone. This is a glaring hole that needs filling...
Click to view Dwimmerlaik's profile New Member 2 posts since
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3. Feb 27, 2008 2:18 PM in response to: Macworld
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I'd love to see them finally utilize the ActiveSync software they licensed from Microsoft to enable "push mail" support from Microsoft Exchange.

POP and IMAP are OK, but it sure would be nice to have it synch with Exchange for corporate users and those of us who like getting our email more frequently than every 15 minutes.
Click to view KPO'M's profile Enthusiast 1,290 posts since
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4. Feb 27, 2008 3:28 PM in response to: canicula
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I doubt it would be a BB client itself. It is probably something they wrote themselves using their license with ActiveSync (something easy to use with some "gee whiz" features). It also wouldn't surprise me if they have written in some remote wipe and enterprise security features (to disable or delete a lost or stolen phone), along with some Office-compatible document writers, and maybe even some print drivers for networked devices. A brand new BlueTooth stack would also be a welcome addition (for full services), but it could be wishful thinking.
Click to view nmpike's profile Member 352 posts since
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5. Feb 27, 2008 3:03 PM in response to: Macworld
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If they start using ActiveSync I am done... I have several windows mobile phones and activesync constantly crashes and loses information.

If you are only getting email every 15 minutes that's your own fault, you can check it as often as you want dwimmerlaik.
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6. Feb 27, 2008 3:53 PM in response to: k2director
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Have full sync of calendars both using iphone/ipod touch Apple Calendar and to do's and Even Google calendar using Busy Sync which was previewed here on MACWORLD after the show in JAN

Works great

http://www.busymac.com/

Click to view Dwimmerlaik's profile New Member 2 posts since
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7. Feb 27, 2008 4:20 PM in response to: nmpike
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nmpike wrote:
If you are only getting email every 15 minutes that's your own fault, you can check it as often as you want dwimmerlaik.

I am well aware that I can manually check email as often as I'd like; however, if you'd bothered to read my post, you'd understand that I'm referring to push mail which doesn't require either manual (ie clicking on the button to retrieve mail) or automatic (i.e. phone checks email every 15 minutes) intervention.

Push mail does exactly what it says, when a message is received by the Exchange server, it is "pushed" out to the client. This means that email is received immediately without the delay inherent to "pull" systems such as those used with POP and IMAP email systems. If Apple has any hope of ever making headway into the enterprise environment, they will have to adopt push mail technology either through the BlackBerry Enterprise Server or Exchange Server methodology.
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8. Feb 27, 2008 5:18 PM in response to: Dwimmerlaik
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I know what Push Email is... the point I am making is what is the point of push? Are you going to sit and wait for email? You have to pick up your phone / blackberry / whatever to read it... when you pick the phone up, touch the get mail button.

Push Email is why you need multiple batteries for blackberries... they eat through them like a lawnmower through grass.

To each their own I guess.. I never understood the purpose of push email being such a big deal.

I have push email on my iPhone with a little program I wrote on our mail server. When I get an email, it sends my iPhone a text message with a link to email, I click the link in the txt message and it launches the email viewer.

I guess that's called Push via text, and I don't have to pay dingleberry a stupid monthly fee to sit and send me email.

Not to mention, I don't trust giving my passwords to Dingberry... very dirty, untrustworthy company in my opinion.

mike
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9. Feb 27, 2008 5:24 PM in response to: Macworld
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While the SDK will be nice and will drive consumer sales, I think the enterprise market can be more exciting. Here are the latest worldwide stats:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/15428f4e-e561-11dc-9334-0000779fd2ac.html

Not bad for Apple considering they are now #10 with a single product marketed in 4 countries officially. Especially telling is the change in the top 10 since last year. This is a fast-moving industry, and consider that even RIM has only 2.5x Apple's share and is #6. I think Apple sees enterprise as a way to work its way up the list.

Click to view joshuawait's profile New Member 83 posts since
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10. Feb 27, 2008 5:53 PM in response to: Macworld
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I can't wait to get my hands on the SDK.


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11. Feb 27, 2008 6:24 PM in response to: canicula
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I hope Apple never adopts "push" technology. If anything, the iPhone is an anti-Blackberry. All the Blackberry people I see are slaves to their e-mail, and they rarely look happy. Choosing when and if to receive e-mail is the true sign of accomplishment. My iPhone is set to check mail manually. Likewise, I rarely answer phone calls I don't expect.

Of course, if it's an option setting, let people choose their own level of submission, just like turning off a ringer.
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12. Feb 27, 2008 7:39 PM in response to: nmpike
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nmpike wrote:
I know what Push Email is... the point I am making is what is the point of push? Are you going to sit and wait for email? You have to pick up your phone / blackberry / whatever to read it... when you pick the phone up, touch the get mail button.

Push Email is why you need multiple batteries for blackberries... they eat through them like a lawnmower through grass.

I could not agree more. Push mail is a useless nuisance. I can get that topless brazilian girl or the 100th remake of a joke in real time and I am allowed to pay for it? Yeah, way to go. I fail to understand why this is such a big success in the US - you barely see any of these things here, not even in enterprises. It is no safe real-time alert system like a pager (especially with constant outages), so it will never replace it for surgeons, police members etc. and it brings no single benefit except wasting batteries and costing big money. Even in Germany I can get an email flat rate for my mobile for something like 6 USD/mth, set it to pull every minute if I want to (I do not) and be done. No need to submit my passwords to anyone, no need to carry an ugly and bulky example of bad design. Most email servers today can send out SMS alerts and this functionality can even be configured (e.g. only mails from some important senders will trigger alerts, only messages flagged as "urgent" will trigger a SMS etc.) much more flexible than push mail and no monthly fees required.
Click to view iphonewiz's profile New Member 3 posts since
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13. Feb 27, 2008 8:38 PM in response to: Macworld
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It is interesting how Apple worded this announcement. It seems that they are finally going to go after multiple markets. This is very exciting!


-C

iPhone owner on day one!

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14. Feb 28, 2008 12:57 AM in response to: toma92103
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It's possible to have a Blackberry enabled device and not to be a slave to it. I have a work Nokia E61 with the Blackberry client from work. It is set to silent all the time. I check it for mail when I want not when it beeps (watch Merlin Mann's Macworld talk about this topic). The reason I want a Blackberry client is so I can carry a single device and not the 2 that I have to carry at present.