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Mar 6, 2008 11:34 AM

'App Store' will distribute iPhone software

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Click to view zensunni's profile Member 253 posts since
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1. Mar 6, 2008 12:08 PM in response to: Macworld
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And Apple's monopolistic attitude is reaffirmed.

You want to develop for the iPhone? You must pay $99 for the privilege. You want to write a little app for yourself? Sorry, you need to distribute to the world via Apple. You want to write an app that they (or their 'partners') disapprove? Nope, that won't be allowed.

I've put off buying both the iPhone and iPod Touch, waiting to see how open development would be. What they've given isn't openness; it forces you to bed Apple and their friends.

And how is this supposed to work with open source projects? I'm sure the certificate will be non-transferrable. How is a open source project meant to work under this model, which is obviously geared to commercial companies and their closed-source products.

Until Apple opens these devices so that I can develop what I want to develop and install what I want to install, I'll continue my boycott of them.
Click to view HalanR's profile New Member 52 posts since
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2. Mar 6, 2008 12:27 PM in response to: Macworld
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I had a feeling we wouldn't see anything today. They're going to stall as much as possible about giving up control of the iPhone, though I can't blame them from a business standpoint.

I love my unlocked, jailbroken iPhone!!! By the time we see anything coming out for the iPhone, I will have been using some great apps for almost a year. And with the control and restrictions they're leveraging, I'm interested in seeing exactly how good those apps are. So far, I see no compelling reason to upgrade further than I have now.
Click to view avebrahimi's profile New Member 2 posts since
Mar 6, 2008
3. Mar 6, 2008 12:37 PM in response to: Macworld
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Though it seems monopolistic, but I am sure the QOS and style of Apple will keep the new born mobile computing infant far from hand of "bad coders", either malicious ones or "bug builders".

For years I've worked with PPC, the problem is all new bricks are placed on oldies. For example the contacts app of PPC is inherited from Win 3.1, 15 years old. And you "can't" replace system level apps because another "monopolistic" idealogy!

Next Monday I am going to purchase an iPod touch, because iPhone is not working in my zone.
Click to view JJJ's profile New Member 30 posts since
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4. Mar 6, 2008 12:47 PM in response to: zensunni
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free apps can be listed for free!
Click to view KPO'M's profile Enthusiast 1,333 posts since
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5. Mar 6, 2008 12:55 PM in response to: Macworld
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Zensunni, Apple's approach seems reasonable to me. They are letting the developers keep most of the money and are keeping the start-up costs low by giving away the SDK (provided you have a Mac), and pricing the developer certificate at a more-than-reasonable $99. Apple has also found a nice way of getting all this software to consumers. They need to be concerned about security and legality. The worst thing for iPhone development would be if some rogue app got out there and either swiped a lot of people's personal information or did damage to the phones. iPhone applications will likely be very popular, so they need to take measures to protect end-users.
Click to view JoeHeffe's profile New Member 7 posts since
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6. Mar 6, 2008 1:02 PM in response to: zensunni
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I get so sick of all the crying! This is a great plan to get quality applications out to everyone in a organized and effective way. I have jailbroken my iPhone in the pasts and downloaded apps. It was a big disappointment! The applications are buggy and most of them useless. Thank goodness that Apple is allowing the organization of apps through iTunes. Thats why they are Apple and the jailbreak community are not! We will now have a safe, secure and easy way to get applications on our phones. If you guys don't like it, go get you a RIM.
Click to view Kees's profile New Member 91 posts since
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7. Mar 6, 2008 1:19 PM in response to: Macworld
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it shows that Apple is willing to allow instant messaging on the iPhone. I'm pretty sure that whoever writes Adium is all over the iPhone SDK by now...
Click to view swaltner's profile New Member 20 posts since
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8. Mar 6, 2008 1:20 PM in response to: zensunni
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zensunni,

The way I understood it is that if you want to develop an app that only you will use, you download the FREE SDK, write your app, test it out on the iPhone Simulator included with the SDK, then load it onto your iPhone to do further testing. As long as you have physical access to the iPhone, you can load it over USB.

Of course you can always jailbreak your phone and do whatever you want with it.

Then again, this sure sounds like a mindless rant, so I doubt you really care.

Steve
Click to view hayesk's profile Member 710 posts since
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9. Mar 6, 2008 1:27 PM in response to: Macworld
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I'm surprised you aren't complaining that Apple won't give you a free iPhone to test on too. Is $99 a lot of money to pay to develop for? Well, Apple isn't going to make the iPhone a free-for-all platform. I'm not sure why you thought it would be.

As for open source - what's stopping you from sending your free compiled app to iTunes and offering the source code on your web site.

But you should look for a Linux based phone instead. It seems the iPhone is not for you.
Click to view montgomery_burns's profile Enthusiast 859 posts since
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10. Mar 6, 2008 1:27 PM in response to: Macworld
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How will businesses distribute internal applications to their employees? Will Apple allow businesses to keep their iPhone applications within their own networks, or will businesses be required to hand over their internal code to Apple?
Click to view montgomery_burns's profile Enthusiast 859 posts since
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11. Mar 6, 2008 1:33 PM in response to: Macworld
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If a person does a factory restore of his iPhone, or if he uninstalls an application from the iPhone but later decides he wants to install it again, will he have to purchase applications all over again?
Click to view swaltner's profile New Member 20 posts since
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12. Mar 6, 2008 1:34 PM in response to: montgomery_burns
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montgomery_burns wrote:
How will businesses distribute internal applications to their employees? Will Apple allow businesses to keep their iPhone applications within their own networks, or will businesses be required to hand over their internal code to Apple?

Yes. There is a $99 fee to become a developer that can distribute apps on the App Store. For an additional $200 ($299 total), you can deploy them internally within your own company. No specifics were given on the mechanics of this installation option, only that it was there.

Steve
Click to view kill953's profile New Member 97 posts since
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13. Mar 6, 2008 1:44 PM in response to: montgomery_burns
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montgomery_burns wrote:
If a person does a factory restore of his iPhone, or if he uninstalls an application from the iPhone but later decides he wants to install it again, will he have to purchase applications all over again?
If it works like the iPod, the app will probably be synched to iTunes on your computer. If you do a reset, the apps you want to restore will be available from your authorised computer. At least, that is how I suspect it will work.
Click to view Fofer's profile New Member 5 posts since
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14. Mar 6, 2008 1:59 PM in response to: zensunni
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zensunni wrote: "You want to write a little app for yourself? Sorry, you need to distribute to the world via Apple. "

This isn't true. You can test your own creations on your own iPhone.