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10 Replies Last post: Aug 18, 2008 9:34 AM by Kevind90521  
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Mar 12, 2008 7:30 AM

Spaces, Exposé, Dashboard

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Click to view platkus's profile New Member 1 posts since
Mar 12, 2008
1. Mar 12, 2008 8:03 AM in response to: Macworld
Re: Spaces, Exposé, Dashboard
Moving a single window by starting to drag it and then holding down shift does not put it in the same position that it was when dragging started. The shift key must be held down before the drag for this to work for me on 10.5.2.

Also, don't bother with enabling developer mode for Dashboard. That's intended for use by, um, developers! Instead try HoverDash (http://platkusworld.com/) which allows widgets to live outside of the Dashboard using a method provided by Apple that does not use the developer mode.
Click to view Schneb's profile Enthusiast 1,402 posts since
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2. Mar 12, 2008 8:50 AM in response to: Macworld
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I have had pretty good luck with Spaces. The only buggy operation I have run in to is with FinalCut. Sometimes the individual windows do not know which space its suppose to be in. It's a pain having to reshuffle everything to one space again.
Click to view Stormchild's profile New Member 65 posts since
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3. Mar 12, 2008 9:20 AM in response to: Macworld
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To echo the previous comment, pressing shift after you start dragging a window does nothing. You must hold shift before dragging, but of course, that will move all of the open windows of that program, so there is apparently no way to move a single window to the same position in another space without moving all the other windows from that same application and space.

I don't see any harm in using the Dashboard developer mode to allow dragging widgets out of Dashboard. Apparently HoverDash is able to start up whichever widgets you want to use outside of Dashboard without also starting up all the widgets that still live inside Dashboard, but that doesn't seem particularly useful as the rest of the widgets will eventually start up whenever you first invoke Dashboard anyway.
Click to view saddino's profile New Member 14 posts since
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4. Mar 12, 2008 10:02 AM in response to: Stormchild
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HoverDash and the dev mode both suffer from the same fatal flaws: 1) the desktop-enabled widgets float over all your apps and 2) you have to keep going back to Dashboard to open/close new widgets.

The Amnesty solutions allow you to select the window level for widgets on the desktop. And since Amnesty doesn't rely on Dashboard, you can disable Dashboard completely if you don't want it running (which explains why Amnesty also runs on Panther).
Click to view RhymingDesigner's profile New Member 43 posts since
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5. Mar 12, 2008 12:35 PM in response to: Macworld
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I started using Spaces a short time ago and have come up with a few ways to have it all make sense. I've defined nine spaces: Mail & iChat, iCal, X-L, Quicken, Photoshop, Illustrator, Pages & Word, iTunes, and Safari & Firefox. To serve as a visual reminder, I rearranged my dock with those app icons in order. Address Book and other small apps in my dock come after and are free agents, Spaces-wise.

For all Apple apps and some others, clicking on the icon in the dock will transport you to the predefined space (no keyboard shortcut needed). For others like Photoshop and Illustrator, I type Control + the space number. When I want to use an app with no space defined, I navigate to an empty space, then launch from XMenu.

I had been toying with assigning Finder to all spaces. After reading this article, I think I'll try it.
Click to view trip1ex's profile Member 182 posts since
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6. Mar 12, 2008 1:51 PM in response to: Macworld
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I find the webclips buggy. They re-size themselves. Mine always shrink on me the next time I visit them in dashboard.
Click to view louielu12's profile Member 103 posts since
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7. Mar 12, 2008 2:49 PM in response to: Macworld
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To put one window in the same place in a different space, I just press F9 after F8 (so it activates Spaces and Expose). Then you can drag one window to a different space and it stays in the same location on your screen.
Click to view samrod's profile Member 394 posts since
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8. Mar 12, 2008 5:32 PM in response to: Macworld
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IMHO, it's both wasteful of valuable function keys and inefficient UI design to assign Exposé and/or Spaces calls to the function keys. I'm already using my function keys in Photoshop and other apps. Besides, reaching for the keyboard for such frequently used features is a pain. Maybe I'm just too lazy.

Since the four corner pixels of the screen are the most easily and quickly accessible, triggering them requires a simple, quick snap of the mouse in their general direction without fear of overshooting. I've set the top left to all windows, top right to desktop, bottom left to Spaces, and bottom right to Leopard's new Sleep Monitor. I have no need for application windows since it's a subset of all windows.

But the beauty in this is that I can drag files right off the Finder in one space, toward the bottom-left corner to trigger spaces, into another space, toward that space's top-left corner to view all windows if needed, and drop them into my After Effects project. Of course this irritates anyone else using my Mac because their undisciplined hands constantly hit the corners, triggering Exposé or Spaces. But I experienced the same when I first activated the corners. In time, my control of the mouse became more disciplined and I rarely if ever accidentally hit the corners anymore. On the plus side, those watching me work, especially Windows users, are amazed by my efficiency and speed (it's not me, it's the Mac).

Having said all this, I still haven't found a good flow for Spaces simply because spreading windows across different spaces tends to fly in the face of multitasking. Sure, the computer is multitasking, but I as the human now have fewer windows in my direct line of site.

Samrod
Click to view louielu12's profile Member 103 posts since
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9. Mar 12, 2008 7:15 PM in response to: samrod
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I agree, it can be a waste of time to use the keyboard. I use hot corners more often (and the same combination as you, except I switch the Spaces and Desktop ones). I just keep the keyboard shortcuts for when I'm using the keyboard and not the mouse.
Click to view Kevind90521's profile New Member 1 posts since
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10. Aug 18, 2008 9:34 AM in response to: Macworld
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Assigning the Finder to all Spaces doesn't work. The Finder folder in Core Services is not highlighted (greyed-out) when I navigate to it via the Spaces Preference Pane & cannot be selected. It can be selected if you navigate directly from the Finder but it can't be dragged to the Spaces Preference Pane window. Is there a way to assign one Finder to all Spaces?