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11 Replies Last post: May 17, 2008 10:24 AM by dougster  
Click to view markdaniel's profile New Member 10 posts since
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May 16, 2008 4:02 PM

Mac Crone Jobs

I am new to the mac and I have heard that macs perform crone jobs in the middle of the night. I don't want to keep my computer running all the time. Can someone point me to the best utility to use to run the crone jobs manually?
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Click to view Misha3's profile New Member 20 posts since
Oct 19, 2003
1. May 16, 2008 4:41 PM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs
You might want to give " Onyx" a try...Get it at www.versiontracker.com.
Click to view dougster's profile Old Hand 4,150 posts since
Feb 25, 2001
2. May 16, 2008 6:24 PM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs

-Hi,

Some more info on Background Tasks This doc is a couple yrs old but you can add OnyX, as mentioned, and also Cocktail




-doug
Click to view Tom_Diola's profile Old Hand 1,965 posts since
Oct 19, 2001
3. May 16, 2008 6:41 PM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs
What kinds of jobs do you want to execute in the middle of the night?

btw it's cron not crone . . . . cron -- daemon to execute scheduled commands (Vixie Cron)

In the terminal type man cron
Click to view Tom_Diola's profile Old Hand 1,965 posts since
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5. May 16, 2008 9:17 PM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs
Actually if you use something like Onyx then that does the same thing as the maintenance in the middle of the night. The maintenance you're thinking about is just a clean up type of thing.
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6. May 17, 2008 12:14 AM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs

It isn't necessary to do any of this. Mac OS X still runs the scripts if they miss their time. Part of this is because they are no longer cron jobs. They are now launchd jobs, and launchd is much smarter.

I was skeptical since it didn't always work right in 10.4, so now in 10.5 I have a Dashboard widget called Maintidget. It tells you the last time the jobs were run. According to Maintidget, the Daily, Weekly, and Monthly scripts are not getting missed, they are run when possible during wake time. This is how it works now. Maintidget also has a button to run them manually...but I have never had to use it, and my Mac is asleep every night.

You don't need to find another utility. These aren't the maintenance routines you're looking for. You can go about your business.

Click to view Martian's profile Enthusiast 1,298 posts since
Sep 27, 2001
8. May 17, 2008 8:44 AM in response to: moose_n_squirrel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs

moose_n_squirrel wrote:

You don't need to find another utility. These aren't the maintenance routines you're looking for. You can go about your business.


Macs have earned a stellar reputation for not requiring all kinds of 3rd party utilities, scans, defrags, registry cleanings, just to delay the inevitable total disk reformatting (or “my PC is screwed, got to get a new one”).

  • How could this reputation be possible if necessary cron jobs wouldn’t happen just because so many Macs don’t run all night?
  • And why would the Mac OS itself be so self-destructive as to encourage sleep by offering Energy Saver control panel options and the instant wake from sleep feature, but yet not build in a more flexible automatic maintenance schedule?


moose_n_squirrel’s answer makes perfect sense.

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10. May 17, 2008 9:47 AM in response to: Martian
Re: Mac Crone Jobs
Martian wrote:
Macs have earned a stellar reputation for not requiring all kinds of 3rd party utilities, scans, defrags, registry cleanings, just to delay the inevitable total disk reformatting (or “my PC is screwed, got to get a new one”). How could this reputation be possible if necessary cron jobs wouldn’t happen just because so many Macs don’t run all night?

To be fair, the original question would have been a good one from 10.0 up through 10.3, when Mac OS X didn't take care of them well. The advice itself was valid but only if you were using an old OS X.

My maintenance on my Mac is that maybe every month or so I'll run disk permissions. That's it. OS X automated everything else I used to do in earlier OS X versions. Sure, I have Onyx, which is awesome, but I use it mostly for customization and troubleshooting. But for maintenance? Hardly ever needed. Onyx has a Maintenance tab, but seriously most of the stuff in that tab doesn't fall under the Maintenance category. I mean how often do you really need to rebuild the Launch Services database? Like most of those "maintenance" routines, maybe once every 5 years when something isn't working right.

Anyway, most of what those routines did was rotate log files, if they didn't run for 2 weeks it wouldn't kill your Mac.
Click to view dougster's profile Old Hand 4,150 posts since
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11. May 17, 2008 10:24 AM in response to: markdaniel
Re: Mac Crone Jobs

-Hi,

I kinda agree with -M'nS on the maintenance issue. It is also a byte confuzzling to say the least. Here is some thoughts from -Randy Singer who poPs in the forums here now and then: OS X Maintenance




-doug