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Jan 6, 2009 1:35 AM

Expo: Roxio intros Toast 10 Titanium

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Click to view reallycrazy's profile New Member 99 posts since
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1. Jan 6, 2009 1:55 AM in response to: Macworld
Re: Expo: Roxio intros Toast 10 Titanium
Gah. $80 upgrade fee for the minimal changes and bug fixes from Toast 9 last year?

There is only one other product I cna think of that started off as a great product, but then once it matured, it was pretty feature complete for what it did, and then just started throwing in stupid unrelated features as an excuse to charge high yearly upgrade fees. That product: StuffIt.
Click to view mike457's profile New Member 17 posts since
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2. Jan 6, 2009 3:19 AM in response to: Macworld
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It also has the dreaded mail-in rebate and the customary confusing prices. Last time, I had to call to complain and argue about my rebate because the company that was doing it for Roxio rejected the email receipt I had for my on-line purchase.
Click to view NaOH's profile New Member 122 posts since
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3. Jan 6, 2009 3:35 AM in response to: Macworld
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As someone who already owns a copy of Toast 9, I don't see any value in upgrading to Toast 10.

The Pro version is really just a bunch of bundled software which will only have an appeal to those who need to do those particular tasks.

Unfortunately the bundled software isn't neatly integrated into a proper overall workflow. In fact, each application has a distinct user interface with no consistent look and feel.

The whole thing feels like little more than a branding exercise by Roxio so that they can separate their product line into a Pro and standard version. The idea being to get users to buy the Pro version and thereby earn Roxio more money.

At the moment I'm seriously unimpressed by Roxio, as they are following in the footsteps of Smith Micro and how they have treated StuffIt.

Unless Toast or StuffIt provide some major new improvements for me in the future, I will no longer bother upgrading.

It's just not worth the money.
Click to view Biallystock's profile Member 306 posts since
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4. Jan 6, 2009 4:49 AM in response to: Macworld
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Roxio had a very good product in Toast and I guess it still is, but every iteration they manage to make it more incomprehensible in the name of "easier".

Given a break, when I come back to it I am yet again hunting for that "feature" I know is in there.

Somewhere!

My current pet peeve is that when burning a backup CD/DVD the silly fat progress bar conceals the name and details of the disk that it is burning. Why on Earth would you want to do that?
Click to view NaOH's profile New Member 122 posts since
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5. Jan 6, 2009 4:59 AM in response to: Macworld
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The killer feature that I am missing from Toast, is the ability to burn discs in several drives at the same time.

In this day of multitasking computers and ultra high-speed peripheral connections, why isn't that a feature?
Click to view pcharles's profile Member 447 posts since
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6. Jan 6, 2009 6:08 AM in response to: NaOH
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Maybe they do not want to be involved with illegal disk duplication. I am suggesting this was YOUR plan, but imagine if you can power a bunch of external drives from one computer.
Click to view djohnson45's profile New Member 4 posts since
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7. Jan 6, 2009 6:08 AM in response to: Macworld
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I, too, am a bit put off by the upgrade price for the feature set. It doesn't seem to be a worthwhile upgrade. I usually buy their upgrades but am seriously considering skipping this one.
Click to view Jon Seff's profile Macworld Editorial 1,007 posts since
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8. Jan 6, 2009 6:14 AM in response to: mike457
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Toast hasn't had a mail-in rebate for the last two versions now. You can an instant discount as a registered user.


Jon Seff - Senior News Editor, Macworld
Click to view Philbert's profile Old Hand 2,412 posts since
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9. Jan 6, 2009 6:19 AM in response to: Macworld
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The killer feature that I am missing from Toast, is the ability to burn discs in several drives at the same time.

That's been possible for some time. All you have to do is duplicate (Command+D) the Toast application. Each instance of the app can run and burn simultaneously. (although I haven't tried it lately)

-phil
Click to view NaOH's profile New Member 122 posts since
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10. Jan 6, 2009 6:31 AM in response to: Macworld
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Philbert: That's one option, but what I am thinking of is a bit more integrated.

In fact, the way I've done it recently is by creating a disc image and then using tools such as Disk Utility to burn the image to multiple drives.

The thing is that I sometimes need to author different variations of the same content. Being able to manage that with an integrated package where I can specify various profiles that share the same source materials and then burn it to multiple drives at the same time would be a huge time saver and a REAL professional tool, rather than the poor excuse for a 'Pro' label that Roxio have put together.
Click to view Lord_Meroving's profile New Member 54 posts since
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11. Jan 6, 2009 7:11 AM in response to: Macworld
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Didn't Toast 9 come out like yesterday?? This seems like a 9.0.5 update that should be free but they'd rather just 10.0 it and charge $xxx.

Anyway i love Toast btw.
Click to view mskaj's profile New Member 16 posts since
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12. Jan 6, 2009 7:15 AM in response to: NaOH
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I hear ya man. I end up using Nero on my PC when I need to burn multiple copies at once. I don't understnd how they can call it a "Pro Application" without this simple feature.
Click to view leicaman's profile Old Hand 1,585 posts since
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13. Jan 6, 2009 7:58 AM in response to: Macworld
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I bought Toast 9 late 2007. The killer feature was a way to move files from my TiVO HD to my Mac to burn DVDs. I even bought the Blu-ray plug-in. But haven't gotten a Blu-ray drive yet, so I still need to amortize 9 before moving up - most likely to 11.

Besides, I have to get Filemaker Pro 10 first.


Eric

There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence. - Will Rogers

Click to view fribhey's profile Member 787 posts since
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14. Jan 6, 2009 8:25 AM in response to: leicaman
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leicaman wrote:
I bought Toast 9 late 2007. The killer feature was a way to move files from my TiVO HD to my Mac to burn DVDs. I even bought the Blu-ray plug-in.

don't know how you pulled that off considering that Toast 9 was released in the middle of March 2008:
http://www.macworld.com/article/132446/2008/03/toast9.html

it hasn't even been a full year and they are trying to milk more money out of their customers.... pretty pathetic.