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12 Replies Last post: May 15, 2008 9:57 AM by weshsu  
Click to view tonydenson's profile New Member 13 posts since
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May 3, 2008 1:10 PM

Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers

I have recently bought a set of Griffin Evolve speakers, and although they superficially seems to work with my iPhone, every so often the sound breaks up. Anyone else using these speakers with an iPhone ?
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Click to view Tom_Diola's profile Old Hand 1,773 posts since
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1. May 6, 2008 7:59 AM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers
I'm surprised it works at all... given that the iPhone is not on the compatibility list.
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4. May 14, 2008 7:39 PM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers
I use my iPhone with the Evolve speakers. I *have* to turn off the antenna due to all the GSM interference as you've found out. While the ability to move the speakers (until the batteries are spent, or you buy the additonal speaker docks) is nice, I'm not happy with these speakers. I have 3 problems with them: # There is a constant slight hiss. It's noticeable enough that it bothers me. I expect better from a set of $300 speakers. # It does not use line level output, so it can mess with the volume \\ settings. For the most part, it seems to reset it back to the setting \\ prior to docking the iPhone, but once in a while it leaves the volume \\ in a different level, which can be surprising the next time you use it. # I'm not impressed with the sound quality. I love them, considering I got them for free, but if I had paid for them, I probably would have returned them. I'd rather have better sound quality than the ability to move the speakers.
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6. May 15, 2008 6:53 AM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers

I suppose I did misunderstand you, but you brought up GSM shielding, so I had (incorrectly) assumed that you already related the sound break to the GSM interference.

Does the problem when you turn the antenna off? How about with an iPod? Does it only happen when the speakers are wireless, or does it happen when they're docked onto the base? How far away are the speakers from the base?

If I keep the antenna on, not only do I get severe GSM chatter, but it will also cause the sound to break up/cut out when the speakers are wireless. I haven't done extensive testing with wireless, as I don't need that feature, and I certainly haven't done it much with the antenna on, since I get so much interference that I just have to turn it off. I can try it tonight to see what results I get.

If you've turned the antenna off and you still have a lot of sound issues, I'd get it fixed/replaced under warranty.

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8. May 15, 2008 7:54 AM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers

You can turn off the GSM antenna by going into Airplane Mode. You will still have Bluetooth and WiFi access.

My guess is that the GSM is interfering. Even when docked, I believe the speakers are still receiving the audio signals wirelessly. Or, you have other electronics around that are interfering. The Evolve uses the older 900MHz band, and iLounge says that their tests showed that it was very resistant to interference from other 900MHz devices. But, that doesn't rule out that you're not getting interference. I would first turn off the GSM antenna. Then, I would move the whole system to another location and see if you still get the same problems. If you do, I would call Griffin and let them troubleshoot the problem.

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10. May 15, 2008 8:32 AM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers
Then it sounds like you're getting random external interference if it works for hours on end. Maybe a neighbor has a fleet of 900MHz phones? :)
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12. May 15, 2008 9:57 AM in response to: tonydenson
Re: Using iPhone with Griffin Evolve speakers

Devices can act in different ways when it detects a loss of a connection. My stereo Bluetooth headset when used with a Jabra A125s transmitter on my iPhone will cut out for seconds at a time, while the Sony transmitter handles the interference much better so the result are very short, but successive drops. From my observations of how the Evolve works for me, I wouldn't be surprised that when the base loses a connection due to interference or whatnot, it takes time for the speaker and the base to "find each other" and then to determine which channel that speaker is supposed to be. So, I wouldn't be surprised if the sound cut out for a few seconds at a time during the negotiation phase of this protocol.

But, I don't know the technical implementation of the Evolve, so everything I just said is pure conjecture. If I had the same problems, I would try the steps that I suggested to see how the various external factors are affecting the performance of the system. Or, give Griffin a call and let them step you through similar steps to determine if the unit is defective.