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4 Replies Last post: Aug 26, 2008 5:13 AM by lin2log  
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Aug 20, 2008 1:53 PM

iPhone apps help your friends find you

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Click to view kimhill's profile New Member 60 posts since
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1. Aug 20, 2008 8:35 PM in response to: Macworld
Re: iPhone apps help your friends find you
Here's an email I sent just now to the Breadcrumbs guys:

Just bought Breadcrumbs, and it looks cool, but I'm curious about why it's so much less accurate than the iPhone's built-in map app for wifi triangulation.

I'm currently indoors in Manhattan, so I wouldn't expect much (if anything) from native GPS. But thanks to Skyhook, I usually get a pretty good fix on my location, even indoors. Currently my circular error of probability is displayed as less than 200' in the iPhone's map app, and indeed, it has located me accurately.

OTOH, Breadcrumbs tells me my error is 3000'. I sent myself a Breadcrumbs email, and indeed it's way off compared to the iPhone's map app. Ironically, when I tap Breadcrumbs' email link on the iPhone, I get a marker that's way off, while the iPhone's native (non-GPS) circle marker sits there on the same screen -- far more accurate.

I assume that you're forcing a result from GPS, even when Skyhook might be more accurate? Breadcrumbs is displaying the triangle icon, so it looks like it's using wifi triangulation as well, but then why would it be so much less accurate than the iPhone's map app?

City dwellers like myself don't always get much benefit from native GPS- we're often reliant on Skyhook. Is it possible that Breadcrumbs isn't designed for this urban scenario? I would love to use Breadcrumbs even in the city to fire off a quick email about where I am, but that doesn't look practical.

Might this be addressed in an update?
Click to view kgoiser's profile New Member 2 posts since
Sep 29, 2005
2. Aug 20, 2008 9:56 PM in response to: Macworld
Re: iPhone apps help your friends find you
... and there's also IAmHere, which is worth investigating as well.

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=285859314&mt=8

http://www.explodingorange.com/iamhere.html

The developer of IAmHere
Click to view Wings's profile New Member 52 posts since
Apr 19, 2005
3. Aug 21, 2008 4:04 AM in response to: Macworld
Re: iPhone apps help your friends find you
I'm waiting for the app that can locate any iPhone without the targeted iPhone having to be running any app at all, like when it's asleep in your pocket. Yeah, I know, security issues and all that, but if the targeted phone's owner can grant permission to be located by someone with a matching password then security shouldn't be an issue. My fiancee and I would like to be able to spy on each other's whereabouts just because we think it's cool, but I would also like it for the day when I leave my iPhone at a restaurant or it gets stolen. And maybe a soccer mom would like to know where her little iPhone-toten hellion is sometimes.

Don't make me have to write this myself.
Click to view lin2log's profile Member 164 posts since
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4. Aug 26, 2008 5:14 AM in response to: Wings
Re: iPhone apps help your friends find you
Oh hey, great idea! One that should actually work... for about *three hours*?! Hooray. After that the battery is toast. No GPS, no maps, no phone... no nuthin'. Sounds like a superb tradeoff.

Like I said, great idea. Especially "just because it's cool" (best reason) and considering the fact that there are in fact a) internet sites that offer that kind of service, based on tower triangulation and b) there IS in fact an app in the store that does just that simply called "GPS Tracker". And the developer also states: "Because of limitations imposed on third-party applications by Apple, GPS Tracker must run in the foreground to transmit position data. Expect about 4 hours of continuous tracking on one battery charge." But I very much doubt you ever could reach 4 hours, going by experience, even THREE is being rather optimistic. But hey, what we won't do for a little entertainment.