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3 Replies Last post: Sep 4, 2008 9:21 AM by dougoftheabaci  
Click to view Tom_Diola's profile Old Hand 2,246 posts since
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Sep 3, 2008 10:05 PM

Subscription to iTunes? Who listens/watches to that much?

Would it mean you could get anything on iTunes with this subscription?
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1. Sep 4, 2008 12:20 AM in response to: Tom_Diola
Re: Subscription to iTunes? Who listens/watches to that much?
I think the idea is that you pay a rather large fee and you can download as much as you want, specifically from the 256kb/s catalogue.

Personally? I'm all for it. No, seriously! I listen to that much music and Apple is the only one who sells 256+ AACs. Amazon has MP3s but I'd rather AAC. Better format.

I think that the thing people might be missing is that it's a simple and easy way to convert pirates. Think about this for a second, you have a large music collection but you didn't go pirate due to some inherit revolt you had planned against the music industry or some other belief but simply because you didn't have the cash. Look at students, we have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for tuition, we can't afford to buy CDs! Now here comes Apple with a one-time large fee that, for the price of say 5-10 CDs you can get a 1-year subscription to download as much as you want in high-quality.

I'd be for it. As long as I could afford that one-time fee I'd do it without thinking twice. And then I'd go out and buy a much bigger hard drive...

I'm the kind of guy who likes full albums and then full discographies...
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2. Sep 4, 2008 5:44 AM in response to: Tom_Diola
Re: Subscription to iTunes? Who listens/watches to that much?
Given that the iTunes Store does not have a subscription-based model, I have to wonder to what you are referring? I can find no articles at Macworld—except for one from this past March that hinted that Apple might reverse its position on subscriptions—or at Apple.com indicating that users can subscribe annually for unlimited downloads. The only “subscription” offered through the iTunes Store is the season pass for people that download TV shows. Otherwise, Apple has a rental service for movies and music remains buy-only.

As to who listens to music that much or watches that much content, you would be surprised. Any number of people have rather large iTunes music libraries, myself included, as music is more passive entertainment. I can have music playing in the background while doing anything else and being in my late-30s, unlike children or adolescents, I am well past the point of listening to the same few songs ad nauseam; I do have nearly four decades of music exposure.

As to video content, time shifting has been the American norm since VCRs became ubiquitous by the mid-1980s. The iTunes Store television show service is an extension of that as it is a mixture of time shifting and purchasing the DVD in short order. Without paying for a DVR up front or DVD sets later, the users gets the episodes of their favorite show(s) without the chance of recording the wrong thing and for less than the DVD that would not be released until after the season ends. Apple’s movie rentals are simply an alternative to going to Blockbuster.

Where music subscriptions are concerned, I am pretty much in agreement with Apple’s stance, as not a single music subscription service has been all that successful. I can sympathize with dougofthebaci ’s sentiment about poor students, but with the ability to pick and choose songs from the iTunes Store at 99¢ a piece, today’s collect student is much better off than those of us whose only legal options were to either buy the entire album or purchase singles at significantly more than $1.00.

If the Yahoo! subscription fiasco is any indication, the risk of suddenly losing all that music, because one never actually purchased individual licenses, which is what you do when you “buy” music, is an all too real scenario. I own physical media, downloaders own media files and in either instance the collection is retained regardless of what happens to the source from which the music was acquired. I only see a subscription service working in the sense of using it to preview music for later purchase because 30-second previews do not cut it.

Given that streaming is not downloading I do not understand why the iTunes Store and other online storefronts are not permitted to allow the user to audition to the entire song, as I have often run into the situation of think a song is what I am looking for, but the sample is of a portion that does not get the synapses firing. I know the music industry is probably the cause of this restriction because they think everyone outside “the Industry” is a thief, but previews are streamed not downloaded. Anyone that would go through the trouble of capturing a (typically low quality) stream is probably not going to buy the music anyway.


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3. Sep 4, 2008 9:21 AM in response to: mdawson
Re: Subscription to iTunes? Who listens/watches to that much?
There have been rumours floating around the net on places like Ars Technica, Mac News Network and Mac Rumors talking about how Apple is considering doing a subscription model with unlimited downloads for about $120 a year.