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Click to view Macworld's profile News & Columns Bot 11,211 posts since
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Sep 5, 2008 1:20 PM

Spore springs to life

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Click to view BigSexy135's profile New Member 3 posts since
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1. Sep 5, 2008 2:59 PM in response to: Macworld
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Spore looks like a great game and I was all pumped to buy it until I heard it had SecuRom. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with companies trying to protect their hard work, but the DRM for spore is just, for lack of a better word, stupid. You can only install it up to 3 times. That means a maximum of 3 installations throughout the life of the game. This prevents to consumer from actually owning the game. I'm all for copy protection, but this is just wrong and will prevent me from buying the game.
Click to view ab0si's profile New Member 21 posts since
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2. Sep 5, 2008 3:22 PM in response to: BigSexy135
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Yep, same here. I do not steal intellectual property however, I am not going buy software which so outrageously limits my ability to use it. I understand the publisher trying to protect its investment and maximize sales ... however, I am far from sure if the benefits outweigh the losses. I've seen several postings that the software is already cracked (some copies of Spore were released early in Oz and, apparently, cracked versions are already available on some pirate sites).

Oh, well, it looked like a great way to kill a bunch of time and avoid real work.

Paul

Click to view rab777hp's profile Old Hand 1,204 posts since
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3. Sep 6, 2008 7:17 AM in response to: Macworld
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i went to the spore site and it said that spore was coming out september 7
Click to view bsfa's profile New Member 35 posts since
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4. Sep 6, 2008 9:59 AM in response to: Macworld
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9 September is the day of an Apple event. Looks like there will be some competition for media attention.

Bert
Click to view hayesk's profile Enthusiast 879 posts since
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5. Sep 6, 2008 10:00 AM in response to: Macworld
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For all of your who aren't buying because of DRM, but yet you "understand the publisher trying to protect its investment", please suggest a workable alternative to protect their investment.

Is it true you can "install it up to 3 times" or is it that you can "install it up to 3 times before having to contact them"?
Click to view BigSexy135's profile New Member 3 posts since
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6. Sep 6, 2008 10:14 AM in response to: hayesk
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you can only install it three times total. If you called and complained after the third time you could probably convince them but the truth is that the majority of consumers won't make the trouble to do that. They could at least have something on the box that says it can only be installed three times. Lame.
Click to view ab0si's profile New Member 21 posts since
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7. Sep 6, 2008 10:18 AM in response to: hayesk
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I have no idea what, if anything, would be a better solution. Please note that I have no argument with the protection scheme being used .. I'm just not willing to deal with it. I don't strange and wondrous stuff written to my drives; I don't want to deal with having the program stop working because I changed the Pickled Kumquat in my 'puter.

Two basic reasons why I will not being Sporing:

I seldom play games at home. Usually, I play them when on the road (or in the air)... the idea of having a problem with the copy protection scheme when I'm I am in East Nowhere simply is a price I am not willing to pay.

I nuke and reinstall everything on my 'puters every 3 months or so. Maybe I don't need to do that with my Apples, but it's a habit I developed over the years (it certainly helps with Windows).

Again, I am not on a crusade here. If the owner of intellectual property wants to require me to stand on my head and sing the Stalin era version of the National Anthem of the USSR (in case you are wondering it begins: Long live the Soviet Motherland; built by the people's might hand.) while inserted Barry Manilow's complete works in my root directory (well, ok, the last I DO have a moral objection to) I think they have a perfect right to do so .... I have a perfect right to pass on the opportunity.

Paul

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Click to view Wizardling's profile New Member 79 posts since
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8. Sep 6, 2008 5:08 PM in response to: Macworld
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You do WHAT every three months? That's insane - even on Windows! What the hell is wrong with you? You must have serious time to burn, zero customisation, and use like three apps period.

As for the DRM - I won't care till I run up against it in which case I'll just use a crack - unless EA comes to their senses or this three install limit is less insane than it sounds.

Either way you guys are missing out on a truly stellar game IMHO :-)
Click to view Wizardling's profile New Member 79 posts since
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9. Sep 6, 2008 5:09 PM in response to: Macworld
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Oh - and Spore was out on Friday here in New Zealand. I've been playing it for the past two days only stopping for sleep :-D As you might be able to tell - I'm a massive Sim fan!
Click to view swartzfeger's profile Member 218 posts since
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10. Sep 6, 2008 8:42 PM in response to: ab0si
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Paul, the reason you mentioned is why Spore is going to be a pain in the *ss for me. My MacBook Pro is currently semi-hosed -- acting up/strange, etc. I run disk utility, and there are all sorts of little disk/file directory bugaboos running amok on my hard drive. I lost my original MBP system disk and my Leopard disc (don't ask, I'm ADHD), so instead of buying a new Leopard disc, I'm just gonna wait until Snow Leopard/10.6 is released in a few months.
So I'm gonna install Spore tomorrow, but then in a few months do a total reformat of my drive. Then I'll have to re-install Spore, putting me at 2 installs. I'm also installing on my MP Tower tomorrow, so come December (or whenever 10.6 is released) I'll have **zero** installs left. Fine... until I have a hard drive failure or some other unforseen event that requires a re-install.

As a writer, I understand the need for copyright/DRM protection, but 3 installs is ridiculous. If Quark Xpress or CS3 did that, you'd run out of installs within a month... and these are programs that cost hundreds of dollars. This is a $50 game.

Oh well, GameTree should be sending my download link soon, I'll be installing the game in a few hours and I'll quit my bitching. :)
Click to view Slannyfaced's profile New Member 69 posts since
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11. Sep 8, 2008 5:29 AM in response to: Wizardling
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I have to agree. The quality and innovation of this game alone makes it worth the only 3 installs...
Click to view swartzfeger's profile Member 218 posts since
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12. Sep 8, 2008 10:17 AM in response to: Slannyfaced
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well, after playing this game ALL DAY and sleeping about 2 hours and waking up to play again... I've gotta agree -- I never thought about the DRM once. **ONCE**. Great game.
Click to view Omaha_Sternberg's profile New Member 3 posts since
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13. Sep 8, 2008 10:39 AM in response to: Macworld
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"For all of your who aren't buying because of DRM, but yet you "understand the publisher trying to protect its investment", please suggest a workable alternative to protect their investment."

That's not our job to do. That's EA's job. EA has provided a great game, along with what we, the consumer, consider a completely unworkable DRM solution. EA can decide to continue using this DRM solution, at which time they will learn whether those of us who have decided not to purchase the game are large enough to impact their bottom line or the publicity (or both). After that point, they will make their decision about whether to change the DRM.

Their other choice is to use the feedback they have gotten so far to estimate what kind of a financial impact on their revenue stream this DRM will be, and make appropriate changes therein.

But we are not responsible for suggesting anything to EA. This is their product, and their protection method. Our responsibility is to tell them how we feel about it.

And we are.
Click to view warlock7's profile Enthusiast 827 posts since
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14. Sep 8, 2008 11:31 AM in response to: Macworld
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Back on the PPC rant.


If they're going to release the Creature Creator in a PPC compatible form then they should release the full game in a PPC compatible form too.